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				<title>1750 Nurgle csm with Daemons</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Made a Nurgle themed army and want to know what you guys think.<br /> <br /> lord w/ termi <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>  chainfist light claw blight grenades gift of mutation =167<br /> <br /> 7 plague w/ 2 plasma guns power fist rhino w/ warpflame gargoyles =258<br /> 8 plague w/ 2 melta guns  power fist =237<br /> <br /> 2 Olits w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> =152<br /> 2 Olits w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> =152<br /> Land raider w/ warpflame gargoyles dirge caster =240<br /> <br /> Daemons<br /> <br /> Great unclean one w/ lvl3 (Bio) 2 grater 1 lesser =290<br /> <br /> 10 Plaguebearers =90<br /> <br /> 3 Plague drones w/ rot proboscis dead heads =156<br /> =1747<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 23 Oct 2013 03:00:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ smeg]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1750 Nurgle csm with Daemons</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ hey,<br /> <br /> i would take nurgle lord on bike, or Tyfus and plague zombies.<br /> <br /> + almost never take plague drones dead heads, i think they are not good.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:17:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1750 Nurgle csm with Daemons</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok lets have a looksie:<br /> <br /> Chaos lord: ok so you have a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>. Why this? why not take a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> or Typhus? This list is hard to review because you provide no battle plan. In fact its nigh impossible, but I'll do what I can. The only way you would put this guy in combat is with the plaguebeaerers, but they are much more suited for holding objectives in the backfield. You dont want to deepstrike in your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> by himself as well, because he will get taken out very easily. If you want to have an assaulty <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> and keep your army list <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> take a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> but thats too expensive for your list, so <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> ditch the term armor, grab the burning brand of skalathrax <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> and a powerfist and throw him in the rhino with some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PMs</span>. Good, cheap marine killing goodness. Dont take <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(645);'>GoM</span>, points are better used elsewhere, and dont take blight grenades b/c the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PMs</span> have em.<br /> <br /> 1st <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> squad-good. shoot em up, guard objectives. Use rhino to disrupt <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> with people you dont want to shoot or get shot by<br /> <br /> 2nd <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> squad-bad. you put short range meltas and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> power, the powerfist on a unit with no mobility. Take a rhino here, or better yet re purpose them for holding objectives or shooting. I think plasma or flamers is the way to go with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PMs</span>.<br /> <br /> the two oblit squads in the land raider- this will attract great amounts of fire, BUT: if one obliterator dies, which he will, his brother will run like a little girl and get gunned down in the back. If you keep this, realize that they will die and do very little damage. You are paying for wounds. lots of wounds. Instead, why not have wounds and the ability to cause them? Take 5 termies instead or, back to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>, keep the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> goodness or take typhus and stick him in here with 4 termies. Thats a much more effective hammer unit, as they are fearless, can shoot up a squad and then assault them to finish them off. rinse and repeat.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(233);'>GUO</span>-More on him later.<br /> <br /> 10 PlagueBearers- good for holding backfield objectives, and in mass can glance any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> vehicle to death. with just 10, throw them on an objective and leave them there all game. you could also take typhus zombies if you take typhus or good old naked cultists. up to you.<br /> <br /> Plague drones-know nothing about these either. Heard they kick ass though. Send em up with your land raider. use land raider to disrupt <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> to protect them from their most shooty units.<br /> <br /> Overall it seems like you just picked the most durable units you could find and planned to foot slog them accross the field. I'm not really too impressed with this list.<br /> It seems to me like you would enjoy a good old hammer and anvil army. Might I suggest:<br /> <br /> typhus and 4 termies with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, power axes and combi-plasma in a land raider with dirge casters and extra armor- the hammer<br /> 2 squads of 7 Plague Marines with 2 plasma guns, a combi-plasma on the champion. Put in a rhino with a mounted combi-plasma- the anvil<br /> 10 Typhus zombies- for holding that backfield objective<br /> 2 squads of 2 Oblits with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>- if you want to take em, use em as escorts for your hammer. Anything with chainfists or meltas that will walk up and pop your Land Raider, you zap with these guys. If they're still alive once the Land raider arrives, start killing stuff with AP2 that can kill your hammer force.<br /> 1491 points so far, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> call this your core.<br /> <br /> From here, it wouldnt hurt to have some more low cost units, like cultists, more of a midfield presence, like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PMs</span>, or more fire support, like havocs. Up to you.<br /> <br /> If you really want to take a great unclean one, you're going to want to go for a tarpit strategy, which would entail lots of nurglings drones and other nasty things that you have to get into <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> 2nd turn or so through deep striking or very very fast movement. You'd have to take out the land raider and its contents if you wanted to do this, and the strategy would be to lock up as many squads as you can in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> until turn 4 or 5 and then by then have such a fortified position midfield that your opponent cannot hope to assault.<br /> <br /> So take your pick, hammer and anvil (basically <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>), or tarpit (basically daemons)?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:15:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ changerofways]]></author>
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				<title>1750 Nurgle csm with Daemons</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ @changer of ways, I think the guy was probably going to put the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> with the 8x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> squad inside the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> and move that up with the rhino.  Leaving the oblits in the back to shoot some big weapons and using some of the deamon units to hold some of the objectives in the back.  <br /> -I would recommend getting rid of the warpflame on the rhino and giving the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> a dirge caster]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:30:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ chillis]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sorry for not telling the battle plan. Chillis is correct I plan on putting the lord and the 8 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(634);'>PM</span> in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span> and move up with the rhino and Plague drones and have the Great one deep strike behind them to make disorder and the Plagueberrers jump on objectives  then the Oblits shoot stuff while the walk up to help.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Oct 2013 02:00:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ smeg]]></author>
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