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				<description><![CDATA[ hey all im already planning my list for invasion in feb next year.Me and my friend have written our lists from the same army book (space marines) and i was wondering what you all thought of the two separate lists. So here we go:<br /> <br /> my list<br /> using the iro hands chapter tactics: master of the forge with a conversion beamer-110pts<br /> 5 man tactical squad-70<br /> 5 man tactical squad-70<br /> thunder fire cannon-100 <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> <br /> anouther thunder fire cannon-100 <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> <br /> and guess what anouther thunder fire cannon-100 <img src="/s/i/a/a0063ed0e1a62441a38f6206bd3f5ad7.gif" border="0"> <br />  and finally an aegis defence line to hide behind -50<br /> <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> thats my 600 pts<br /> my friends list<br /> using the iron hands chapter tactics: captain with boltgun-90<br /> 5 man tactical squad-70<br /> 5man tactical squad-70<br /> 5 man bike squad with melta gun and flamer<br /> stormtalon with lascannons-140<br /> stormtalon no upgrades-110<br /> thats his total 600pts <br /> i have anti infantry supperiority and he has air supperiority<br /> comments and critisisms please <br /> thank you in advance Zinogre and friend]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Oct 2013 17:23:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Invasion febuary 2014</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ With the First list..if anyone has any type of Aircraft you are going to be hurting.  You have nothing at all capable of damaging an AV11 Flyer.   Maybe drop a Thunderfire and get a Hunter/Stalker and add a Lascannon to your Aegis for Air Support. Great list v. Horde Armies...but if any flyers show up   <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> 2nd list: looks good.  Anti-tank w/ meltagun/Lascannons. Bikers to move up quick and 2 Flyers.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:23:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi zinogre, I can't say I'm a dedicated marine player, but from general experience I have a couple of things to say about your list. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span> I don't really see the point of the bikers, they are the only unit that will be leaving the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(637);'>adl</span> and will be unsupported so seems a waste to me, you would probably be better off putting some special/heavy weps in your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads. Also you could do with some dedicated anti tank, I know you have your lascannon flyer but if that doesn't come in till turn 3/4 then you could be in trouble. Just my 2cents, let me know what you think.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Also I'm assuming it's an allies list? So both lists playing together?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:29:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Invasion febuary 2014</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the quick replies<br /> I should have said that yes these lists will be played together like allies<br /> so its a Double tournament. so yes we do have anti flyer but what would you suggest instead of the bikes <img src="/s/i/a/813fd55ae283423385e2697b5fbde8c7.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:59:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ How many points does your bike squad come to? If you dropped those and 1 thunder fire you could probably put plasma/lascannons in your tax squads as you seem to be lacking in they way of ap2 weps and early game anti tank, In fact, I'd probably take missle launchers in your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads, that way you still have frag templates and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 8 for transport/light vehicle popping, and you'll probably have enough points left over for something juicy. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Oct 2013 19:37:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SpankingApe]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Invasion febuary 2014</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ the bike squad comes to 120 points . i see what you mean . lot of points.what about some devastators -70pts with two plasma cannons and 2 multi meltas<br /> 120<br /> but it is my friends list so ill let him decide on which units to take. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Oct 2013 20:17:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>tbh</span> if you were going to do that I'd take 4 missles, cheaper and more reliable, 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 8 shots or 4 blasts, you don't really want to be shooting plasma cannons at what your shooting your multi meltas at, do you know what I mean? Obviously it's your decision but I would stress putting some weps in your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads with the points left over, even Flamers would work as it would give you that extra punch in overwatch.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 24 Oct 2013 21:24:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SpankingApe]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span>. Where's the tanks? For a total of 1200 pts you should really have a couple of preds or something in there to take advantage of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span> traits.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> In your list I'd trade in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>tfcs</span> for vindis. BOOM]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Oct 2013 03:23:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jamo]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Invasion febuary 2014</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ vindicators are two expensive points wise. so i woudnt be able  to take three. besides <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>tfc</span> can now shoot as a barrage letting me hit targets i cannot see. also the storm talons gain the machine empathy as do all three of my tech marines and my master of the forge and my friends captain. <br /> but if vindicators were 100pts and not 125 i would deffinately take it]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:17:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ zinogre]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Invasion febuary 2014</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span> vindi's are 115 aren't they, plus extra for the siege shield?<br /> <br /> i like the idea of this:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(384);'>MotF</span>- <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(596);'>CB</span>- 110<br /> <br /> 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span>- Plasma/combi <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>, rhino- 130<br /> 5 man <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span>- Plasma/combi <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>, rhino- 130<br /> <br /> Vindi- 115<br /> Vindi- 115<br /> <br /> =600<br /> <br /> using <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span> tactics that is a tough nut at 600 points <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Oct 2013 09:31:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mixer86]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ That's the shot <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> They're actually 125 stock tho<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Stormtalons probably won't live to see <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(681);'>IWND</span>. Besides them you have no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>av</span> to speak of. This is iron hands isn't it?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Oct 2013 11:42:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jamo]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yes it is iron hands but they are successor chapters, so they dont adopt the chapters full ideals. My friends army is the iron Jackals( fast moving and determined) and mine are the Iron Smiths (slow cumbersome and potent at long range fire support. )<br /> iron hands just seems fun thats  all .<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:45:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ zinogre]]></author>
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