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				<title>1850 jump pack shenangans </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Alright, so I have a bunch of jump infantry and melee weapons laying around and tried to think of some list that I could use them in and came up with this:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Shrike: 185pts<br /> Chaplain, Jump Pack: 105pts<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 3x Scout Squads ( 4 sniper, 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>): 3x 75pts (225)<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> 10x Vanguard Vets, jump packs, lightning claw pairs: 520pts<br /> 10x Vanguard Vets, jump packs, storm shields, powerfists: 570pts<br /> 10x Vanguard Vets, jump packs, 5 meltabombs: 245 pts<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> The plan would be to put shrike with the lightning claw vest and infiltrate them as close as possible to the enemy that I want dead (they would get around 40 attacks that re-roll to wound on the charge not including shrike). I would pair the jump chaplain with the strom-shield powerfist vets so they would get 40 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>Str</span> 8 ap2 hits on the charge (not including the chaplain. The other vets would assist where necessary as well with the scouts.<br /> <br /> What do you guys think? A hilarious list? Is it viable at all?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 01:03:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I laugh as I shoot your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(671);'>VVs</span> down w/ AP2. and number of wounds. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 01:14:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ raiden]]></author>
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				<title>1850 jump pack shenangans </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Count as Bloodangels.<br /> <br /> Take advantage of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(493);'>DoA</span> rule, and you might have a chance. Otherwise your charging with 30 over priced <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(457);'>JP</span> marines with no added survivability. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 01:34:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mr. DK]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1850 jump pack shenangans </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So are blood angels a viable army? I have quite a few jump infantry just sitting around because space marines don't use them much.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 01:55:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ WonderAliceLand]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Throw in a few stormshields and you still wont be winning any games.Assault termies would fare better, and they still suck. Drop 1 pfist, 1 scout squad , and 1 meltabomb, for another chappie. A ten man termmie squad with lightning claws is cheaper, and arguably more survivable with 2+ 5++ and deepstrike. As much fun as you will doubtless have playing this list in turn one and two (you may still gain a 2nd turn charge with shrike tho), your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(671);'>VV</span>'s are not more surviveable than tactical marines and will be eaten to pieces by; Deldar/eldar bulletspam, Hellturkey, tau in general (damn tau) and noise marines (of all the damn things!). This can work with maybe one of the new chapter tactics of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FW</span> website though.  Hate to dampen your happy meal, but that's all it is. A happy meal. For things that eat 3+ saves. But I doubt you can be tarpitted.<br /> <br /> EDIT: it is spelled shenanigans, not shenangans]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:06:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Largeblastmarker]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Play <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> and make the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(671);'>VVs</span> regular assault marines, ditch the scouts and then spend the points you save on something useful<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> ... Tank support or some other fire base]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:17:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Brother Payne]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560060/6191292.page"><b>Brother Payne wrote:</b></a><br/>Play <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> and make the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(671);'>VVs</span> regular assault marines, ditch the scouts and then spend the points you save on something useful<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> ... Tank support or some other fire base</div></blockquote><br /> Alright, I have never played or played against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span>, Ill take a look at their codex.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:39:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ WonderAliceLand]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ba's points costs are way more expensive tho. WAY more.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 02:47:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Largeblastmarker]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/8edc2080d4f4bf9d713de31c6e87b951.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560060/6191362.page"><b>Largeblastmarker wrote:</b></a><br/>Ba's points costs are way more expensive tho. WAY more.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> But no where near as bad as vanguards. And <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(671);'>VVs</span> still die like normal marines...<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Also, if you play <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> you can take sang priests w <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(457);'>JPs</span> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>fnp</span> on assault marine scoring units is about as good as it come for troops choices.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 03:07:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Brother Payne]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> points are not THAT much overcosted. a base bare bones 5 man ASM in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> is 100. SMC is 85 (w/out vet sgt )]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 03:11:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ raiden]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9817dad0e9cb34fd1e46a0eecbc02eaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560060/6191418.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> points are not THAT much overcosted. a base bare bones 5 man ASM in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> is 100. SMC is 85</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Plus they get <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(493);'>DoA</span> and they're troops... Worth the 15 points in my opinion]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 03:15:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Brother Payne]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Oh I meant <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> vanies <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. They are still rocking the old C;<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> pointscosts. But <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> asm are pretty much better in all aspects.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 03:36:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Largeblastmarker]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Tacs are a tad more expensive, but you can mitigate this by taking the free missile launchers. though you do have to pay the vet. sgt. tax and 10 man for them. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 04:34:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ raiden]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would say this list is fine if it's 1000points<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> You spent 600 points on one squad of vanguard veterans.....<br /> <br /> Same price you can get two chapter masters and two units of ten honour guard!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 16:45:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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