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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey there everyone!! I was thinking of the following list and I 'm curious about how competitive it is/could be in your opinion :<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span>:<br /> Coteaz (divination)     100<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> Vindicare Assassin     145<br /> Techmarine w/ Conversion Beamer    110   (He is here for his bolster defences..I think <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> )<br /> Paladin Squad (10x) : 4x Psycannons + 3x Hammers + 3x Swords + 3x Halberds + Apothecary + Bro Banner + Psybolt Ammo      750 <br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 1st Henchmen Squad (12x) : 3x Plasma Cannon Servitors + 2x Jakaero + 7x Bolter Warrior Acolytes    165   (Coteaz joins them)<br /> 2nd Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon Razorback    95<br /> 3rd Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon Razorback    95<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Dreadnought w/ 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Autocannons +  Psybolt Ammo     135<br /> Dreadnought w/ 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Autocannons +  Psybolt Ammo     135<br /> <br /> Now , the above Units come at 1730 points so... there are  270 points left .. That makes me think "Oh! I have Paladins in there , won't Drago be a good addition in there?" And surely it is but I was thinking that for 200 points I can include a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 3 Librarian with codex power (requires to pay something like 20 more points for 4 powers) or divination for Primaris + 2x Random powers every round .. And if I go the Divination road won't it be better to add an Ordo Malleus <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(272);'>Inq</span> who can bring Divination + his own psycannon for only 110 points instead ??<br /> <br /> As I already told you before I want your opinions on this matter and if by going one way or another how competitive this list is / or can be ?? <br /> <br /> (Just for your info I 'm considering the Libi choice but maybe that's because of the converted miniature which looks damn good  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"> ) <br />    ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Spectral]]></author>
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				<title>2k Grey Knights (suggestions)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yup, I'm gonna say it. <br /> <br /> You should be taking Draigo. <br /> <br /> The Henchmen squads are great, but by paying the 200ish point Draigo tax you now have the most durable scoring unit <i>in the game</i>. <br /> <br /> I would also recommend taking a Librarian (with Draigo), as he can buff the Paladin unit greatly with his powers. Divination is a fantastic lore for this. It also gives the Paladins additional psychic defense. <br /> <br /> Rather than a Conversion Beamer, why not give the Techmarine Rad/Psyko grenades and stick him with the Paladins? Yet another buff for you <b>scoring unit of doom</b>.<br /> <br /> Obviously to pay for all these upgrades you would need to drop the Henchmen squads entirely, and add a single <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(523);'>GKSS</span> in a Razorback or a smaller Paladin unit. <br /> <br /> If you don't want to go all-out on the Paladin Death Star then your list is alright as-is. Not enough scoring models <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>, and the only place you can take points from is the Paladins. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Gorgosaurusrex]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I second adding draigo, considering your going pallys and investing a LOT in a single unit. Might as well have it score.<br /> <br /> I also agree about using the techmarine as a grenade carrier for your deathstar, although putting him in the henchman gunline unit with a beamer is also nice. Either way, take blind grenades. They are a steal and very effective in either unit. <br /> <br /> You can probably downgrade one of the lascannon razorbacks to a psyback(heavy bolter and psybolt ammo). The psyfleman dreads, jokero and vindicare can cover long ranged <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span>. Saves points for upgrades elsewhere. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 18:01:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dr. Serling]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ 3rding draigo - at 2k points you'll find that 3 troop choices (2 being very fragile) will lose you the game from a missions standpoint. Draigo added to the mix will give you a 4th very durable troop choice along with his epic tanking capabilities. With such a heavy paladin investment, draigo is just too good not to take.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:2k Grey Knights (suggestions)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks all of you for your input !! <br /> <br /> I know Draigo is the ultimate beast bringing not only tanking and durability to the Pallystar but also making them scoring + grand strategy .. I can't argue there so I probably take out a Warrior Acolyte from Coteaz's unit (as 6 of them still make a good meatshield for the heavy weapons) and include Draigo ..<br /> <br /> On the other hand I still think that the Libby with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 3 mastery is really good as Prescience + 2x more powers (let's say the 3+ invu for the unit + the no cover  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ) would boost the Pally's Unit to no limits  <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">  ..The tactics are that my opponent shoot everything to the Pallystar as it opposes a great threat or the Coteaz's Unit as it can do a lot of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>dmg</span>  and hopefully leave my other two smaller scoring units alone but maybe an experienced player won't do something like that. Also the Libby's powers are a bit random ..probably  <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0">  (still the mini is really cool )<br /> <br /> I'll try running both of them and see what looks more strong and more fun to play with..<br /> Thanks again everyone !!   ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 22:47:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Spectral]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Draigowing player here. What you'll find is that as much as you don't want to take Draigo, he's a meat shield that your Paladins need against S8/AP1-2. That said, he's not all that useful outside of general tankiness and grand strategy. On the upshot, you can break him off and watch him solo troop units. <br /> <br /> The Librarian, as cool as he is, doesn't hold a candle to Coteaz. Coteaz is a L2 psyker who can also access divination. Then, good special rules plug a lot of holes in the Paladin list. He gets you cheap scoring and protects your Paladins against deep strikers. Plus, his "Spy Network" rule will troll opponents more often than you'd expect. <br /> <br /> For <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQs</span> you absolutely NEED Draigo. Coteaz... You can somewhat do without, there are a few unique things the libby can do (precognition + warding stave = maximum overtroll) ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Oct 2013 23:39:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ blackarmchair]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2k Grey Knights (suggestions)</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok! So I arranged the two games that I 'll test my list and it 'll be against Blood Angels and Raven Guard this Friday ! Both of them are close friends so we will test the lists to different missions at 2k points  <br /> <br /> I'll try this 1st :<br /> <br />  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span>:<br /> Coteaz (divination) 100<br /> Draigo  275<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> Vindicare Assassin 145<br /> Techmarine w/ Conversion Beamer 110 (He is here for his bolster defences)<br /> Paladin Squad (10x) : 4x Psycannons + 3x Hammers + 3x Swords + 3x Halberds + Apothecary + Bro Banner + Psybolt Ammo 750  (Draigo here)<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 1st Henchmen Squad (12x) : 3x Plasma Cannon Servitors + 2x Jakaero + 6x Bolter Warrior Acolytes 160 (Coteaz joins them)<br /> 2nd Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon Razorback 95<br /> 3rd Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon Razorback 95<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Dreadnought w/ 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Autocannons + Psybolt Ammo 135<br /> Dreadnought w/ 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Autocannons + Psybolt Ammo 135 <br /> <br /> <br /> And this at the other game: <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span>:<br /> Coteaz (divination) 100<br /> Librarian w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 3 mastery (divination) + Sword and Stormbolter   200<br /> <br /> Elites:<br /> Vindicare Assassin 145<br /> Techmarine w/ Conversion Beamer 110 (He is here for his bolster defences)<br /> Paladin Squad (10x) : 4x Psycannons + 3x Hammers + 3x Swords + 3x Halberds + Apothecary + Bro Banner   730  (Libbi here)<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 1st Henchmen Squad (12x) : 3x Plasma Cannon Servitors + 2x Jakaero + 6x Bolter Warrior Acolytes 160 (Coteaz joins them)<br /> 2nd Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon Razorback 95<br /> 3rd Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon Razorback 95<br /> 4th Henchmen Squad (3x) : 3x Bolter Warrior Acolytes in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon Razorback 95<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Dreadnought w/ 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Autocannons + Psybolt Ammo 135<br /> Dreadnought w/ 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Autocannons + Psybolt Ammo 135 <br /> <br /> I'll inform you how it went in the weekend . Thanks again for your suggestions  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Trust me: Try taking Grenades for the Techmarine and putting him with the Paladins. You will <b>not</b> be disappointed. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Gorgosaurusrex]]></author>
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