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+ HQ + (475pts)

* Destroyer Lord
Mindshackle Scarabs (*), Sempiternal Weave (*), Warscythe

* Imotekh the Stormlord

* Royal Court (90pts)
* Harbinger of Eternit Chronometron (*)

Harbinger of the Storm

* Harbinger of the Storm

+ Troops + (15pts)

* 5x Necron Immortals
5x Tesla Carbine

* 5x Necron Warriors
* Night Scythe

* 5xNecron Warriors
*
ight Scythe

+ Fast Attack + (580pts)

* 10x Canoptek Scarabs

* 6 Wraiths 1 Whip

* 6 Wraiths

+ Heavy Support + (380pts)

* Annihilation Barge

* Annihilation Barge

* Necron Monolith

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The Stormlord turtles in the back with immortals and chronotek. Dlord goes with whip wraiths and hunts MCs and other big CC monsters. Normal Wraiths shield the Scarabs and harass backfield. NS and Anni Barges do what they do best and shoot loads of S7. Monolith is for punishing armies with a lack of hard AT like tau and eldar. Daemonsmight be a big problem for this army since the stormlord is helping them more then helping me. Vs a screamerstar I hope to bait them into the monolith and sucking them dry

with its gate. The Stormlord is for punishing the MSU style in our area and for protecting my tanks (4+ cover is a bit of a pain to take down with AV 13). Stormteks give my warriors a bit of extra punch and staying power for scoring but I'm not going to rely on that to keep them alive. The majority of our missions at this RTT don't usually require a heavy amount of scoring in order to win the match.

Thoughts? Vs most lists I think I can stand a chance.

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Anybody got some useful advice in how to improve the list?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6203244.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6203244.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT Your list lacks troops. Where is the Monolith for? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6203282.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6203282.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT
Like I said my RTT missions don't require much scoring so I didn't make it a priority. 2/3 of the objectives rely on killing and 1/3 on objectives or king of the hill.

The monolith is for punishing armies with a lack of hard AT like tau and eldar serpent spam (haven't seen any wraithknights in a long time due to nurgle daemons and SW).

I will work on cleaning up the list to make it more readable when in get some more free time.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6203318.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6203318.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT
I assume your warlord with be Stormlord...If he's with a small unit of Immortals, you run the risk of failing morale and running off the table after just losing 2 models.

Otherwise, I like that each unit(s) have defined rolls. That's important in tournament play!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6203689.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6203689.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT AT and good harrassment of backfield, I have found scarabs to be a detrimental unit as a harrassment and AT tool and I have been trying to include a unit of 10 in all my lists because if they go by ignored they can be a real thorn for the enemy and if they get focused they either have to dedicate a large amount of small arms or fire their big guns at them instead of at more important targets.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6203855.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6203855.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT
If it works in your meta, then take the Monolith. As an alternative, 3 spyders would also I think work well in your list. You could even give a couple of them guns with the spare points, or chuck in a couple more coils.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6204310.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6204310.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT DPs, Fatey, and silly lesser daemons (scarabs have been fairly great at doing this, the enemy DPs are afraid to charge them since I jump from cover to cover to keep the DPs at I1 if they charge, and losing that armor would kill them right away since the rest of the saves will be invul).

With spyders it somewhat limits my effectiveness towards a screamerstar since I do not have a way around that nasty 2++ which is one of the reasons I considered the monolith orginally when making this list because everything I have tried so far has been bunk and unsuccessful. But with the spyders I feel I could do much better vs non-tau or eldar but I feel I am already effective enough vs those armies]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6204343.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6204343.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT
Anyway, the screamerstar is always going to be a problem, fortunately haven't had to deal with them yet. WIth your list, you could get deathmarks with a veiltek, but not sure that would help because of the 2++.

As much as I really hate to suggest it, if you face a lot of screamerstars, what about a GK ally? Coteaz, 2 X 3 acolytes, StormRaven.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6204368.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6204368.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT

MarkCron wrote:
Does the portal work effectively against the ScreamerStar? I haven't got my codex, but thought it was a strength test?

Anyway, the screamerstar is always going to be a problem, fortunately haven't had to deal with them yet. WIth your list, you could get deathmarks with a veiltek, but not sure that would help because of the 2++.

As much as I really hate to suggest it, if you face a lot of screamerstars, what about a GK ally? Coteaz, 2 X 3 acolytes, StormRaven.

I haven't tried the monolith out yet but with heralds being s3 they should go squish after 2ish turns of combat. I could take GK allies but I would much rather stick to pure crons since I only have a small bit of CSM allies and I'm not too interested with allies outside of GTs]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6204426.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6204426.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT GK can be helpful. Having said that I don't normally take allies with a Cron list. (but usually have Cron allies in my GK list!

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That's the one aspect of Crons I don't understand.....towering robots that can be susceptible to mind games? Pffft.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6206149.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6206149.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT

That's the one aspect of Crons I don't understand.....towering robots that can be susceptible to mind games? Pffft.

You see I think it is the exact opposite. I think Necrons shouldn't get a Deny the Witch. It is not mind games but the power of the warp which to fight against you must either:

a) Be able to control the warp yourself and thus must understand it which a robot wouldn't.
b) Deny its very existence through sheer force of will, which a robot again wouldnt be able to do.

As for Screamer star. I quite like the Monolith idea. Unless they just assault the Monolith and kill it. So you'll have to protect it. I don't rate GK allies as an effective tool against it though. Granted mind strike missiles can work. But they don't arrive until turn 2 and it may be too late to do anything about it by then (as it could already be locked in combat). SW allies would be the better bet to just shut down their psychic powers without the 4++ from divination they are at a big weakness. The other option is IG with the Storm Lords 4+ steal the best way to deal with Screamerstar can just be to pie plate it to death turn 1 before it gets its 2++ rerollable up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6206386.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6206386.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT

FlingitNow wrote:

That's the one aspect of Crons I don't understand.....towering robots that can be susceptible to mind games? Pffft.

Except the necrons do understand the warp and how it works they are just unable to manifest its power due to having little to no warp presence. If they didn't understand it they wouldn't have been able to create things like the null field generators that protect crownworlds form warp storms and daemon invasion etc. Or the gloom prism which can be used in game for a 4+ DtW.

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As for the monolith I would expect to have the screamerstar tied up the moment it attempts to go near the monolith for a charge and if it decides to shoot instead I will just go to them with the wraiths. I'm going to be testing out both variations of the list and see of spyders or the brick work better]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6207233.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6207233.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT
Due to the lack of an invul save, I think the spyders will get slaughtered. If the scarabs survive a round, could be funny just adding new bases to the scarabs to keep the Sreamerstar tied up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6208098.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6208098.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT

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Now poison they should be immune too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6208370.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6208370.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT

FlingitNow wrote:
I meant understand on an emotional level not a technicological level. Certainly no reason for them to ignore psychic powers though...

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Now poison they should be immune too.

Actually if you played crons in 3rd ed it explained how weapons worked on crons and why they would fight people. It explained that they would load their poisoned rounds and weapons with acids to melt the metal instead of relying on toxins.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6208406.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6208406.page GMT Re:Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT
I played the monolith vs a nurgle+houndstar and it preformed fantastic. It tied blasted a good amount of hounds of the table with its big gun and grounded some MCs with its small guns. The portal never got in range of the houndstar since he counter deployed them on the other side of the board. In the end I lost the match due to misplaying my a group of my wraiths and my scarabs t1 and losing them both very quickly to the hounds and DPs.

I played the spyders vs a tau gunline and they did little to nothing outside of soaking up a missleside team's shots for a turn. The extra bodies spawned didn't matter much when the scarabs hit the line and won a multi assault vs a couple FW squads. I feel that if I would have had the monolith I would have had a better shot at winning this match (we drew with one objective each, first blood for tau and line breaker for me, the middle objective was contested by his buffmander and suits and my warriors) the monolith would have easily been able to gib a few suits or some blobs of infantry each turn.

I don't feel the spyders synergize well with this list and are just spare bodies whereas the monolith provides me a durable source of s8 for gibbing suits, hounds, and the like. Also it provides an alternative source of damage to bypass those silly rerollable 2+ from things like seekerstars, and seer councils etc.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6210654.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560590/6210654.page GMT Necrons 1850 Competitive for a RTT and I need to go build my monolith.

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