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				<title>Why are Space Marines abbreviated as C:SM and not just SM?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> is much too similiar to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>, don't you think?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:43:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Why are Space Marines abbreviated as C:SM and not just SM?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I suppose it's to differentiate them from say Codex: Dark Angels and Codex: Space Wolves. They are all Space Marines but not -the- space marines if you get me. ]]></description>
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				<title>Why are Space Marines abbreviated as C:SM and not just SM?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, both are used, depending on context. If you're talking fluff, its usually '<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>'... If you're talking rules, the 'c' is usually added to show that you're talking about the codex specifically, rather than marines in general.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:47:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Why are Space Marines abbreviated as C:SM and not just SM?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ As people have said before It's to differance vanilla <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> from other chapters.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 1 Nov 2013 20:50:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Why are Space Marines abbreviated as C:SM and not just SM?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ One thing I've wondered though, when not using abbreviations and using the full word, why is Space Marine used instead/more often than Astartes, when Astartes refer to themselves <i>as</i> Astartes and that's their proper title as apposed to Space Marine? Plus, it doesn't sound terribly corny.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Nov 2013 04:25:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Wyzilla]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ well, "space marine" honestly falls off the tongue easier than "Adeptus Astartes" partly due to that being latin, personally I feel it is much cooler to say astartes because its latin <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> (and as you said, not as corny) ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Nov 2013 04:32:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Why are Space Marines abbreviated as C:SM and not just SM?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d721a27852c8715ab8779690503df97e.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560979/6209283.page"><b>Wyzilla wrote:</b></a><br/>One thing I've wondered though, when not using abbreviations and using the full word, why is Space Marine used instead/more often than Astartes, when Astartes refer to themselves <i>as</i> Astartes and that's their proper title as apposed to Space Marine? Plus, it doesn't sound terribly corny.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Because the names for things in the rules is often different than in the fluff.  Space Wolves refer to themselves as "the Rout" for example, and find "Space Wolves" offensive]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Nov 2013 04:41:10]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ its because they are mutated wolf-men that deny they are mutated wolf-men]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Nov 2013 04:48:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Why are Space Marines abbreviated as C:SM and not just SM?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9817dad0e9cb34fd1e46a0eecbc02eaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560979/6209292.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/>well, "space marine" honestly falls off the tongue easier than "Adeptus Astartes" partly due to that being latin, personally I feel it is much cooler to say astartes because its latin <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> (and as you said, not as corny) </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Not Adeptus Astartes. They simply refer to themselves as Astartes for all 'Space Marines'. The Adeptus is left off considering it's just the Imperium's way of noting a branch, like the Adeptus Ministorum and such. Plus it types faster thanks to being in the same key grouping.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Nov 2013 04:53:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ it also gives a more meaningful image to someone that has no idea what an astartes is. a "space marine" gives you an image to work with. you instanly think (at least people I know) Spartan from Halo (or along these lines I imagine). while its not evenclose to the epicness that is an Astartes its something, not just some blank stare. <br /> <br /> I was playing this game the other day, I was playing Astartes<br /> dude 2: Whats an Astartes?<br /> dude 1: "umm... marines in spess with awesome armor?"<br /> <br /> hence space marines. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. just throwing thoughts out. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Nov 2013 05:02:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ raiden]]></author>
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				<title>Why are Space Marines abbreviated as C:SM and not just SM?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/9817dad0e9cb34fd1e46a0eecbc02eaa.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560979/6209343.page"><b>raiden wrote:</b></a><br/>it also gives a more meaningful image to someone that has no idea what an astartes is. a "space marine" gives you an image to work with. you instanly think (at least people I know) Spartan from Halo (or along these lines I imagine). while its not evenclose to the epicness that is an Astartes its something, not just some blank stare. <br /> <br /> I was playing this game the other day, I was playing Astartes<br /> dude 2: Whats an Astartes?<br /> dude 1: "umm... marines in spess with awesome armor?"<br /> <br /> hence space marines. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. just throwing thoughts out. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <a href="http://youtu.be/LJMLfACod48?t=36s" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Yes, but then you open up this wonderful can of worms.</a> Plus being a Californian, S's are stressed and thus 'Space Marine' becomes Ssssspasssse Marine'. Not to mention going purely by Astartes removes <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s motivation to attempt to copyright the word 'Space Marine' and the embarrassment of such a sad attempt.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Nov 2013 05:07:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Wyzilla]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ that accent... I can't I can't take it seriously. what with it sounding like it was thrown together with clips.. I LOVE <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(484);'>IT</span>!. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>LOL</span>. SPESS MAHREENS<br /> <br /> (not to mention how silly half of it sounded with him contradicting himself... slightly disappointing relic :/) ]]></description>
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				<title>Why are Space Marines abbreviated as C:SM and not just SM?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ In the Fluff they had been called originally Legiones Astartes, then Guillman proposed his idiotic book and now we have only Adeptus Astartes.<br /> <br /> As for the abbreviation, in my local group we just call it "normal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>" if differentiation is needed from the other Chapters.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:40:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Order Knight]]></author>
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				<title>Why are Space Marines abbreviated as C:SM and not just SM?</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/2bbd097c95f167eef64e43200f0a5c23.png" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/560979/6208320.page"><b>tybg wrote:</b></a><br/>C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> is much too similiar to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>, don't you think?</div></blockquote><br /> Because <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> is too similar to something else <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Especially if you are talking, specifically, of the Black Dragons Chapter of Space Marines...]]></description>
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