<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "[Grey Knights] - 750 tourney - halp plz"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net [Grey Knights] - 750 tourney - halp plz I'm going to a local tourney next week, and would like to do something better than 0-4
Anyways, the meta is going to be extremely competitive:
Spoiler:
2 CSM with Dragons and obliterators (pretty similar lists, but one plays 2 drakes and 3 nurgle oblies (sorc. and 2*cults) , and the other plays nurgle bike-lord, plasma plague marines, cults, drake and oblies,
1-2 Necrons - one certainly abused croissants, the other, I believe, just added A-barge to his battleforce (deathmarks with Cryptek-flamer inside too)
2 eldar - one plays all-wraith army, the other is just simple avengers+bikeseer+serpents. I have also seen him using Knight, so might expect that.
Dark Eldar venomspam with Wracks.
2 Tau with lots of FW, Fireblade, 2 XV88 and XV104 with freaking FNP and Ion Accelerator - everything with skyfire and intercept as well
3 SM guys with pretty much similar netdecked from local forum armies - 2 Skyhammer Talons, las-autocannon Predator, MoF-biker with beamer, some troops.
Tyranid, my friend - currently 2 Flyrants and a cow.
Maybe 1-2 demons, not really sure, but heard of them
1 to 4 IG - different lists, every has 1-2 vendettas, some play all-vets, some use big platoons with Lord-commisar
And finally, Deathwing DA

Anyways, I am stuck with this meta. I've tried everything - Coteaz with Razorback spam, psycannon spam, all-termies lists, even used my Raven (even though it's 205points from 750). My last list was smth. like that:
HQ
Inquisitor Malleus, 3 Skulls, TDA, Psycannon, ML1 - @ 119pts
Troops
Termies - Psycannon, hammer, justicar w/ halberd - @ 225pts
GKSS - Psycannon - @ 110pts
Heavy Support
Purgators - 2 Psycannons, Teleport Homer @ 145pts + Razorback - Heavy Bolter, Psybolt Ammunition @ 50 pts
Fortifications
ADL - Quad-Gun @ 100pts
Total - 749 pts.

Tried to make it maximally invulnerable to drakes - TDAs, all PA boys are in razors (except for GKSS, they pilot quad-gun and babysit point). But it just gets stuck in every other list. Tau just shoot it to pieces (and Riptide overcharges my termies), IG shoot it down with their infinite lasgun fire, Eldar laugh with their 3+ Toughness 6 guys (and S10Ap2 shots). Tyranids fly around and spam their annoying 12-shots, drowning me in gaunts. Dark Eldar are possibly not that dangerous, Psycannons tear their cardboard skimmers to pieces, Razorback helps a lot too. SM are annoying as well, mostly because of their MoF with his blasts and bike (2 flyers and pred make it even worse)

Models are not the case, I've got everything I could possibly use - NDK, SR, Coteaz and Henchies, bunch of PA and TDA boys, Dreads and Razors.
Please, Dakka, help me kit out to everything, I really would like not to swap army in order to win. 6th Ed. op-nonsense makes me sick ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6218796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6218796.page GMT [Grey Knights] - 750 tourney - halp plz Tbh pal. With a meta like that I can't really see a standard grey knight list getting anywhere, you might have to be dirty and spam dredknights. I'd like to see drakes touch them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6218833.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6218833.page GMT [Grey Knights] - 750 tourney - halp plz Coteaz
2 Warrior Acolytes + Bolters, 3 Inquisitorial Servitors + Plasmacannons in Razorback w/ Psybolts
6 Warrior Acolytes + Bolters in Razorback w/ Psybolts
NDK +HIncinerator
NDK + NGS + HIncinerator
ADL + Quadgun

But it was really hard to deal with 2 flyrants or 2 Talons - just too many, even with ADL. That's why I'm here - maybe I'm doing it wrong and should try smth. else?
Really don't wanna be That Guy, but I see no point in playing without even rare winning. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6218857.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6218857.page GMT [Grey Knights] - 750 tourney - halp plz Tbh the quad gun on its own isn't a sufficient AA defense. I've found that the hard way. If I use it at all, I use it as a add on to whatever AA unit I use. Eg with tau, I stick an ethreal in my missles side unit so he can fire the quad gun In addition to my missle sides. Tbh apart from the storm raven gk don't really have good aa so you'd be looking at allies ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6218919.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6218919.page GMT [Grey Knights] - 750 tourney - halp plz ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6218926.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6218926.page GMT [Grey Knights] - 750 tourney - halp plz tbh, I see no way to use allies in 750-points list :c]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6219256.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6219256.page GMT [Grey Knights] - 750 tourney - halp plz With the chimera they are much more protected (i used not to take the chimera, now i never take the servitors without it )]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6219257.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6219257.page GMT [Grey Knights] - 750 tourney - halp plz But still, any ways to survive this meta-massacre?
Maybe smth like that:
HQ
Coteaz @100pts - warlord
Inquisitor - PML1, 2 Servo-Skulls @ 61pts
Troops:
Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband:
3 Warrior Acolyte, Psyrazorback @ 62pts
3 Warrior Acolyte, Psyrazorback @ 62pts
FA:
Stormraven Gunship @ 205pts - TL LC, TL MM
HS:
Nemesis Dreadknight @ 130pts
Nemesis Dreadknight @ 130pts

Kinda douchebag-list, but if you look at my LGS army breakdown... OMI here to use Communion - sad thing Coteaz can't do that. Servo-skulls come in handy as well. SR is hard to kill at that amount of points, and two dreadknights, even nude, can do some damage to enemy (though it would be hard to catch them first). Maybe -1 NDK, add incinerator and 100 points of additional Henchmen? Ideas?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6219656.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561541/6219656.page GMT