http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Lord Commissar (Power Axe & Melta Bombs) – 85 {Attached to a Melee Platoon}

Infantry Platoon 380
Platoon Command Squad – 30
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70

Infantry Platoon 380
Platoon Command Squad – 30
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70

Infantry Platoon 130
Platoon Command Squad – 30
Infantry Squad (Sergeant, Flamer, Autocannon) – 65
Infantry Squad (Sergeant, Flamer, Autocannon) – 65

Infantry Platoon 130
Platoon Command Squad – 30
Infantry Squad (Sergeant, Flamer, Autocannon) – 65
Infantry Squad (Sergeant, Flamer, Autocannon) – 65

Vendetta – 130

Aegis Defense Line (Quad Gun) – 100

= 1490

Each 50 man melee blobs have a kitted out lord commissar attached for the extra ld, the 20 man autocannon platoons sit on objectives / man the quad gun, the vendetta is there for anti-flier / armor ... I think most people would have a serious problem against two 50 man melee blobs at 1500 points.

Thoughts?

... apparently i'm bad at math and the first list is only at 1420 points instead of 1490]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6220613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6220613.page GMT GREEN TIDE.. cause they will out number you and they hit harder and more often in close combat
ORK Wagon Rush..Cause you wont be able to touch them till after they are rolling over you with Deffrollas then they will jump out and out number you and they hit harder and more often in close combat
IG Leafblower..cause it brings the pain and they dont have to move to have you in range
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Long story short you need a bit more ranged heavy hitting
At 1500 to keep the flavor of the list I would swap one of the short platoons for a second Vendetta and call it good ..
Going to 1850 for Grand tourney I would add a third vendetta and the short platoon back in and at least two battle preists
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Lord Commissar (Power Axe & Melta Bombs) – 85 {Attached to a Melee Platoon}
Lord Commissar (Power Axe & Melta Bombs) – 85 {Attached to a Melee Platoon}
Ministorum Priest – 45 {Attached to a Melee Platoon}
Ministorum Priest – 45 {Attached to a Melee Platoon}

Infantry Platoon 380
Platoon Command Squad – 30
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70

Infantry Platoon 380
Platoon Command Squad – 30
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70
Infantry Squad (Sergeant with Power Axe & Melta Bombs, 9 Guardsmen, Flamer) – 70

Infantry Platoon 120
Platoon Command Squad – 30
Infantry Squad (Sergeant, Autocannon) – 60
Infantry Squad (Sergeant, Autocannon) – 60

Vendetta – 130
Vendetta – 130

Aegis Defense Line (Quad Gun) – 100

= 1500

?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6221235.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6221235.page GMT Still kinda curious as to the reasoning for the power axes thou ? as opposed to other power weapons ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6221554.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6221554.page GMT IMO. I would drop the priests, replace a lord comm with a regular commissar. No power axe or melta bomb on the commissars, so you don't feel pressured to use them. That gives you an extra 225 Pts. Griffons, Plasmavets in AC Chimeras are good options.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6223523.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6223523.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6225811.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6225811.page GMT ap 2 .... sword is just user str ap 3, giving all of the sergeants / commissars power axes will let them shred through almost anything in CC, what they can't down with str 4 ap 2 attacks (MCS / Mech) they have melta bombs for.

On a 50 man blob the priests are a good investment ... and why would I not pay 15 pts per commissar for a power axe / bombs when they do not have to accept challenges?

Since the list revoles around the two 50 man guard blobs I think the lord commissars extra ld is worth taking (and the priests for the reroll) 2 instead of swapping them out imo.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6226229.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6226229.page GMT IG trying to close combat? Enemies will easily avoid such bulky formation and will destroy other things (Vendettas, acutocannons, aegis qud gun) and then finish off remaining mob by shooting.
I recommend to put in platoons many heavy weapons (lascannons,autocannons,HB). So you can shoot every turn. And if enemies will try to assault You have flamers and axes to hth combat. If they will not assault - just continue to shoot. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6228853.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561628/6228853.page GMT