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Belial - 190
Sammy - 200
RW command + Apoth + RW banner - 245
635


DW termies + AC + 1 x th/ss - 245
DW termies + AC - 240
3 bikes + 2 melta - 100
3 bikes + 2 melta - 100
3 bikes + 2 melta - 100
6 bikes + 2 melta + HF/HF speeder - 241
786 (1651)


Darkshroud - 80
HF/HF speeder - 60
Black Knights (5) - 210
350 (2001)

Speeders have flamers knights and command have plasma bikes have melta termies be scary all rounders. Dark shoud gets em there then follos command/knights.
I know azzy makes em both troops but the point sink to make him viable in game outweighs the cost of having Belial and sammy. Also it would probably break the theme! let me know what you think!


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561694/6221967.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561694/6221967.page GMT Also, I think you have too much tank killing stuff-since black knights can deal with tanks reasonably well, 8 meltas seem to be going overboard, especially considering the fack that your whole army can be tarpited really easy.2 heavy flamers on one 10AV vehicle just might not cut it.
Instead, I would, again, group them up to six, so they dont die as fast, and give sarge a power weapon.(especially considering the fact that if you are so close to get the melta bonus, you probably would be able tho charge anyway).
Also, termies can deal with vehicles pretty easy, since they dont scatter when DS(just split fire AC on back armor of the vehicle that needs killing)
Not a fan of the Command squad, but I lack experience in that regard, what I DO think you have way too many points in your HQ and, honestly, not enough in AA. Sure, you can jink away from 1 hellturkey, 2 are a problem.
I could carry on, but I feel it's better to wait for some feedback ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561694/6222203.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561694/6222203.page GMT hf speeders too, ones listed with the bikes.

The RW command is essentially another squad of black knights with fnp so they are sweet imo. as far as aa is concerned i think the twin linked plasma talons from bk and rw command squads can deal with it. adl is useless with this army.

I do have 390 in hq true, but azrael plus libby plus vets plus landraider (only real viable way to field azrael) is a huge point sink and it ruins the theme, which im all about!

how about this,

Belial - 190
Sammy - 200
RW command + Apoth + dakka banner - 295
685


DW termies + AC + 1 x th/ss - 245
DW termies + AC + 1 x th/ss - 245
6 bikes + typhoon speeder - 236
6 bikes + typhoon speeder - 236
962 (1647)


Darkshroud - 80
HF/HF speeder - 60
Black Knights (5) - 210
350 (1997)


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no more melta more dakka keep bikes out and mobile]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561694/6222537.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561694/6222537.page GMT MSUs with a bunch of special weapons that scout move and precisely drop termies in your face on turn 1? Yes please! My only recommendation would be to swap some of those meltas for some more plasmas or flamers.

While I don't think you're gonna win a GT anytime soon with this army, I do think that you've got a really fun fluffy army that can bring the pain very fast. If you get 1st turn it should be pretty epic.

Have fun! Maybe a batrep when you're done?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561694/6222734.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/561694/6222734.page GMT