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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey Dakka, <br /> <br /> so last night I play at my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(38);'>FLGS</span> with my previous list, I went up against a rather nasty imperial guard army with crazy amounts of mech and troops stuck behind an aegis line going to ground, it was a scouring mission where my opponent set up (in his words) a kill box in his lines, then waited for my noob self to ache from coming into firing lines, needless to say the evening was painful, but I did win, which considering his force is off to throne of skulls today I felt quite happy about (side note, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(38);'>FLGS</span> manager tipped me off for the point I needed to win 9-8)<br /> <br /> anyway, with the game being such a hard run thing, and the Salamanders needing a fairly large amount of new recruits afterwards, I thought a reassessment before my next match-up might not be a bad idea, therefore I've got 2 possible lists to run with, Version 1 will cost me a fairly large amount of money to produce, so if Version 2 would be good, I might try that instead, let me know which you think is better, and why, or if you have any other suggestions instead<br /> <br /> thanks<br /> <br /> Binks<br /> <br /> *****<br /> <br /> Version 1 - 1500pt with extra 250pts after<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Vulkan He'Stan<br /> <br /> Troops - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad with Melta, Multi-Melta, and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Combi-Melta<br /> <br /> Troops - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad with Flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Combi - Flamer and Heavy Bolter (Combat Squaded and Walking)<br /> <br /> Troops - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad with Flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Combi-Plasma and Missile Launcher (Combat Squaded and Walking)<br /> <br /> Elites - Terminator Squad with Assault Cannon (walking)<br /> <br /> Elites - Sternguard Squad with 1 x Combi Melta 1 x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Combi-Melta and 1x Combi Flamer (walking)<br /> <br /> Heavy Support - Storm Raven with Twinlinked Multimelta and Twin linked Lascannon (melta <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span>-squad goes in here)<br /> <br /> Heavy Support - Centurion Squad, Heavy Bolters and Hurricane Bolters Sergeant has Omni-Scope <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Missile Launcher and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon (walking)<br /> <br /> thats 1495 points<br /> <br /> upgrade to 1750 would be<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Captain with Artificer armour, Combi-Melta, Power Sword<br /> <br /> Fast Attack - Storm Talon<br /> <br /> *****<br /> <br /> Version 2 (cheaper to field)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Captain with Artificer Armour <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Combi-Melta, Power Sword<br /> <br /> Troops <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad with Multi-melta, melta and Vet with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Combi-Melta in Drop Pod<br /> <br /> Troops <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad with Heavy Bolter, Flamer and Vet with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Combi-Flamer (Combat Squaded and walking)<br /> <br /> Troops <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad with Missile Launcher, Flamer and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Combi-Plasma (Combat Squaded and walking)<br /> <br /> Elites - Sternguard Veterans with 1 x Combi-Flamer, 1 x Combi-Melta and 1x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Combi-Melta (at 1500 in Storm Raven at 1750 in Land Raider always with Captain)<br /> <br /> Elites - Terminator Squad with Assault Cannon (at 1500 walking, at 1750 in Storm Raven)<br /> <br /> Heavy - Storm Raven with twin-linked Las and twin-linked multi-melta<br /> <br /> Heavy - Centurion <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>Dev</span> Squad with Heavy Bolters and Hurricane Bolters Sergeant has Omni-Scope <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Missile Launcher and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon (walking)<br /> <br /> upgrade to 1750 would be:<br /> <br /> Land Raider - stock<br /> <br /> thats 1745 points<br /> <br /> as suggested please compare and contrast, suggest additions, or replacements, although my budget isn't huge<br /> <br /> thanks again]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Binks]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Personally list 1 is better but I think it needs a little work. Your still weak against gun line because you don't have the speed. You need more transports in your list. I would run Flamer and multi melta in all the tactical squads to take advantage of Vulcan and the chapter tactic. Termis should have a heavy Flamer as well. Deep strike them in. I leave my sages stock and load the combi weapons onto your sternguard. I do 10 combi meltas in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> and let them blow up 2 tanks from combat squading. 10 combi Flamers do work as well. If your fighting gunlines burn the heretic in your phase. Against <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> you can rape units with 10 D3 hits and re rolls to wound.]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Re-Thought Salamander Lists 1500 +250 points</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok so with Version 1 if I removed the Captain and Storm Talon, and instead had as my 1750 point addition the Centurions all with Missile Launchers<br /> <br /> that would mean I could run this list<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> - Vulkan He'Stan<br /> <br /> Troops 2 x 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> with Multimelta, Flamer, and Drop Pod<br /> <br /> Troops 1 x 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> with Missile Launcher and Flamer (backfield objective (combat squaded))<br /> <br /> Elites Terminator Squad of 5 with Heavy Flamer joined by Vulkan (maybe in Storm Raven?)<br /> <br /> Elites 10 Man Sternguard unit all with combi-meltas in drop pod (combat squaded)<br /> <br /> Heavy - Storm Raven with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Multi Melta and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon<br /> <br /> addition to 1750 is 3 Centurions with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Heavy Bolters and Missile Launchers, Sergeant has Omniscope, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> Missile Launcher and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Lascannon (walking)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:53:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Binks]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Try that list out. Looks pretty good. Put the termis with Vulcan in storm raven. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ ravengatorfan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok, thanks, <br /> <br /> Just as an aside, the new list will cost me about £140-170 to build, while the second will cost £50, while I'm happy to Christmas up the new list, is the second list worth the cost in preparation for the better list (i.e. Should I find £50 now and £90-£120 later or just hold for Christmas and bday?)<br /> <br /> Thanks<br /> <br /> B<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(442);'>Ps</span> if there's any other suggestions from others too that'd be great  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 9 Nov 2013 09:39:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Binks]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i Would say the first because with Vulkan you can spam some major cheese. I would also try and work some LOD into the list because everyone love a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> that ignores Cover.<br /> ]]></description>
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