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(revised 11/14/13)

Guardsmen

== HQ ==

>Company Command Squad (160)
Autocannon
Master of Ordinance
Chimera


== Troops ==
>Platoon Command Squad ------(30)

>Infantry Squad------------------------(50)

>Infantry Squad-----------------------(50)

>Veteran Squad-----------------(190)
Plasmagun x3
Lascannon
Chimera

>Veteran Squad-----------------(190)
Plasmagun x3
Lascannon
Chimera


== Fast ==
>Vendetta-------------------------(140)
Heavy Bolter Sponsons

>Vendetta-------------------------(140)
Heavy Bolter Sponsons


== Heavy ==
>Manticore Rocket Launcher--(160)


Allied White Scar Marines

== HQ ==
> Chapter Master ------------(285)
Space Marine Bike
The Shield Eternal
The Armor Indomitus
Power Fist

== Troops ==
>Bike Squad--------------------(135)
Grav-Gun x2
Bikers +2


>Bike Squad--------------------(135)
Grav-Gun x2
Bikers +2



== Heavy ==
>Thunderfire Cannon-------(100)

++++1750++++


So... my thinking is the two heavy units sit behind line of sight blocking terrain using indirect fire to thin out the crowds while the bike squads and flyers zip ahead and harass any threats to them. The vets and ccs take objectives in the background or support the bikes and flyers. The vanilla troops are dropped off on unattended objectives in the opponent's deployment zone (Update - or mushed into a large blob squad to be an imperial speed bump to any big threats). Big daddy chapter master simply clubs any of the small fries to death or tostles with any monsterous creatures.

It seems to be a good list but I'm a little rusty. Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6249012.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6249012.page GMT Re:Returning to 40k and need list advice (1750 - Guard with Marine allies) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6250145.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6250145.page GMT Re:Returning to 40k and need list advice (1750 - Guard with Marine allies)
 Ol'Dirty wrote:
You need a platoon command squad with those two infantry squads, you can't take those individually.


I realized that as I was going to work today. I'll update the list tonight. Aside from that things look ok?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6251202.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6251202.page GMT Re:Returning to 40k and need list advice (1750 - Guard with Marine allies)
Cheddah wrote:
 Ol'Dirty wrote:
You need a platoon command squad with those two infantry squads, you can't take those individually.


I realized that as I was going to work today. I'll update the list tonight. Aside from that things look ok?


The IG stuff all seems fine otherwise. I'm not familiar with White Scars enough to say.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6251204.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6251204.page GMT Returning to 40k and need list advice (1750 - Guard with Marine allies)
I thought that Korsarro was the only character that allowed them to be taken as low number squads, but you have a chapter master here..

Forgive me if I'm wrong..]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6251713.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6251713.page GMT Returning to 40k and need list advice (1750 - Guard with Marine allies) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6251756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6251756.page GMT Returning to 40k and need list advice (1750 - Guard with Marine allies)
 Skabfang wrote:
Bike squads don't seem big enough? Aren't they supposed to be 5 models minimum to be counted as troops? (forgive me, codex is at home for points cost, but 93 pts for bikes + grav x2 doesn't seem high enough).

I thought that Korsarro was the only character that allowed them to be taken as low number squads, but you have a chapter master here..

Forgive me if I'm wrong..


Damn. You're right. Another thing I missed.


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Updated the list.

Imperial Golden Gaurdsmen wrote:
I dont know your strategy but usually you want to get those plasmas into double tap range which means moving, which wont allow you to use that lascannon.


I was hoping to keep them back with their lascannon while the bikers and flyers distract the tougher targets then move them forward with plasma if they arnt in danger of being immediately wrecked.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6251936.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6251936.page GMT Returning to 40k and need list advice (1750 - Guard with Marine allies)
Is the bike element "punchy" enough to make an impact? Or do you think you might not have enough bodies?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6253308.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6253308.page GMT Returning to 40k and need list advice (1750 - Guard with Marine allies)
smithy12262 wrote:
I like it.

Is the bike element "punchy" enough to make an impact? Or do you think you might not have enough bodies?


I played a casual game against my friend with the list and they seemed like they did need more bodies but points are getting a little tight. I might have just been playing dumb though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6255465.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563125/6255465.page GMT