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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi all,<br /> <br /> I'm torn between two lists I want to use for a local league. Any constructive comments and suggestions welcome!<br /> <br /> <font color='cyan'>LIST A:<br /> <br /> Njal (Runic Terminator Armour)<br /> 5x Wolf Guard (4x combi-melta + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>; 1x Terminator Armour <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span>) - Droppod<br /> 7x Grey Hunters (Wolf Standard, Meltagun) - Droppod (Deathwind <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>)<br /> 9x Grey Hunters (Wolf Standard, Meltagun) - Droppod (Deathwind <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>)<br /> 9x Grey Hunters (Wolf Standard, Meltagun) - Droppod <br /> 9x Grey Hunters (Wolf Standard, Meltagun) - Droppod <br /> 5x Grey Hunters (Plasmagun) - Razorback (Twin Las-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>Plas</span>, Hunterkiller <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>)<br /> 6x Long Fangs (5x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>)<br /> 6x Long Fangs (5x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>)</font><br /> <br /> Njal joins first <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(390);'>GH</span> droppod pack. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(225);'>WG</span> joins droppod <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(390);'>GH</span> packs, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(225);'>WG</span> joins one of the Long Fangs. Razorback squad starts in reserve and acts as objective holders and finishing of where they can. I think Njal would do well with his powers close to the enemy. As for flyers... not sure. That's the weaknes of this list, I figured I would ignore them and focus fire on the rest of the enemy. Comments on that would be appreciated. <br /> <br /> Deathwind is there for swarms but actually those and the hunterkiller <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> is because I don't know what to do with the points. I feel like there might be too much fat on this list.<br /> <br /> <font color='orange'>LIST B:<br /> <br /> Logan<br /> 5x Wolf Guard (1x Combi-melta; 4x Combi-plasma; 5x Frost Axe)<br /> 9x Grey Hunters (Wolf Standard, Plasmagun) - Droppod<br /> 9x Grey Hunters (Wolf Standard, Plasmagun) - Droppod<br /> 9x Grey Hunters (Wolf Standard, Plasmagun) - Droppod<br /> 9x Grey Hunters (Wolf Standard, Plasmagun) - Droppod<br /> 6x Long Fangs (5x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>)<br /> 6x Long Fangs (2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>; 3x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>)<br /> 6x Long Fangs (5x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>) - Droppod</font><br /> <br /> Logan and Combi-melta <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(225);'>WG</span> joins <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> Longfangs on the drop. Rest of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(225);'>WG</span> joins the other <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(390);'>GH</span> squads, More fireppower, less psychic attack + defense. Less fat but also more Gung-ho. Same story with flyers except I won't have <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(416);'>JOTWW</span> and additional coversaves. This list hits hard and fast but LIST A has better late game abilities.<br /> <br /> I don't know the local meta so this list must either be completely <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>TAC</span> or be strong enough in all other departments to be able to ignore one department (Flyers and Skimmers) and finnish of the rest to win the game.<br /> <br /> Thanks in advance for any C&C. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 16 Nov 2013 10:06:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ hmmm i think i prefer the first list and i would say drop the razor and put in a vanilla rune priest for the extra casts of lightning and storm caller to save those fangs. but apart from that i actually like both lists <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> would be funny to put i dread in a pod in just for the entertainment as your enemies face suddenly drop <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> bu all in all you should be ok with either list <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> your first lsit is stonger <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> let us know how it goes and if it works <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 16 Nov 2013 11:53:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lightning Wolf Lord]]></author>
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				<title>Re:SW 1750 TAC competitive</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ OK, first day of league done.  In the end I took LIST A but changed it slightly. I removed the deathwind upgrades and the Razorback squad and added a 3rd Long Fang squad with a pod and gave another Long Fang squad a pod.<br /> <br /> In the end I had 7 pods so that ensured my whole army will be on the table turn 1. Obviously the Long Fangs wouldn't deepstrike. I forgot my codex at home which would've been fine since I had my list on my phone BUT I forgot what Njal's storm powers were so they weren't used in any of the games.<br /> <br /> We had 3 games. <br /> <br /> First game I tabled a Necron player. He didn't have a full army though. I think he had about 1400 points. He gave up at the start of the 4th round when I was finally able to shoot his doomscythe down.<br /> Second game I tabled a Vanilla marine player. He had bikes, scouts, 2 Land Raiders and Assault Termies<br /> Last game I lost 8 - 9 against an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> player with Dark Angels allies. He had 2 Leman Russ Battle tanks, a Bassilisk, 4 Vet squads in transports, Vendetta, Rhino with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> marines, Libby with Terminators He was good and understood my list. He castled up in a corner and it was difficult to drop in between his forces. He maintained a very good gunline. I had bad luck shooting at his battle tanks so I might have been able to pull a draw had things gone different. <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 18 Nov 2013 10:17:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BoTW]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ glad to hear the day went well and thats a shame to forget your codex you could have turned it if you had njals powers and would have possibly killed a lot more in a shorter period of time. I hope the rest of the league goes well for you <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 18 Nov 2013 16:53:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lightning Wolf Lord]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I like your modified List A the best, good choice there. Glad to hear you did well. <br /> <br /> Your third game was a tough matchup, and it sounds like it was also against a good player. Losses happen <img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> I feel like you should take 2 Grey Hunter squads with Melta and 2 squads with Plasma. This will give you more options to deal with different kinds of threats. <br /> <br /> Something that I've toyed with is Long Fangs with Multi-Meltas in a Drop Pod, as the Pod gives them great positioning at the expense of only snap firing first turn. Having 5 Multi-Meltas  in the middle of the board can really change how your opponent plays. I normally attach a Wolf Guard with Terminator Armor and a Chainfist for good measure. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 18 Nov 2013 18:24:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gorgosaurusrex]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Gorgosaurusrex, I actually did exchange 2 meltaguns for plasmaguns, just forgot to say that. Great minds think alike!<br /> <br /> The Multi-Melta squad is definitely something I would like to try out, then I would add Logan and a Runepriest instead of Njal to give them Relentless and Prescience so they don't need to snapfire. Against the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(69);'>IG</span> player it would have been very handy as my meltas were just out of melta range and I couldn't penetrate the battletanks before he shot them up. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 19 Nov 2013 07:11:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ BoTW]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Logan would be a great addition to the Long Fang squad. I've even had Arjac in that unit before along with Logan. Who says you can't make a death star out of devastators? I wouldn't charge that! ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:33:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gorgosaurusrex]]></author>
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