<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6261206.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6261206.page GMT Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6261208.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6261208.page GMT Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?
Space wolves are space marines with slightly better missile launchers, tau play an entirely different game than anybody else.

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Rune Priest or Priests, and then Ally with Tau. Given the SW 'dex allows two HQs, you can douche your way to two RPs, and then a full contingent of Tau fire power.

MSS/C&CN buffage for AP2 guns or a Farsight bomb of XV8s. XV88s with HYMPs and lotsa Missile Ds. Riptides? Sure.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6261307.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6261307.page GMT Re:Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6262343.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6262343.page GMT Re:Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?
EVIL INC wrote:
Yes, tau is the current "broken army" that no one wants to face.


Old news, Eldar are the new Tau. More specifically Eldar/Tau. They are much nastier. Tau being ultra badass is old news, Eldar trump Tau in all respects and SM brought the answers to Riptides.

Tau is certainly not the Top army anymore.


To answer the OP, SW are a 5th edition codex, Tau are 6th. You are better off bringing Tau or Bring SM with allied SW if that is what you want. But, Tau are certainly not in the place they were back in 5th when SW reigned Supreme. The times they are a changing. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6262397.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6262397.page GMT Re:Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?
 Zagman wrote:
EVIL INC wrote:
Yes, tau is the current "broken army" that no one wants to face.


Old news, Eldar are the new Tau. More specifically Eldar/Tau. They are much nastier. Tau being ultra badass is old news, Eldar trump Tau in all respects and SM brought the answers to Riptides.

Tau is certainly not the Top army anymore.


To answer the OP, SW are a 5th edition codex, Tau are 6th. You are better off bringing Tau or Bring SM with allied SW if that is what you want. But, Tau are certainly not in the place they were back in 5th when SW reigned Supreme. The times they are a changing.

Yeah, GW's response to an OP dex is an even more OP dex.
Sigh...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6262469.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6262469.page GMT Re:Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?
For drop pod tactics and speed, SW are better.

FWIW, no riptide spamming player can stop 4+ drop pods that arrive turn 1, especially with good wolf guard placement. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6262525.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6262525.page GMT Re:Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?
 juraigamer wrote:
For shooting, tau are better.

For drop pod tactics and speed, SW are better.

FWIW, no riptide spamming player can stop 4+ drop pods that arrive turn 1, especially with good wolf guard placement.


This *might* be true, but how does said pod list fair against, say daemons? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6262529.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6262529.page GMT Re:Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?
 Zagman wrote:
EVIL INC wrote:
Yes, tau is the current "broken army" that no one wants to face.


Old news, Eldar are the new Tau. More specifically Eldar/Tau. They are much nastier. Tau being ultra badass is old news, Eldar trump Tau in all respects and SM brought the answers to Riptides.

Tau is certainly not the Top army anymore.
Okay, so Tau are just the "other" broken codex? lol. Well that certainly makes things better.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6262811.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6262811.page GMT Re:Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?
 juraigamer wrote:
For shooting, tau are better.

For drop pod tactics and speed, SW are better.

FWIW, no riptide spamming player can stop 4+ drop pods that arrive turn 1, especially with good wolf guard placement.

Unless you give them early warning overrides (interceptor) and an IA.
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And even if you pull it off, that's ONE riptide, likely of a few. And there's still the entire rest of the tau army. Which can still castle, throw up speedbumps, and do everything else that already was able to handle this kind of thing. But better, because they're tau.

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 Ailaros wrote:
Yeah. The riptides shoot in interceptor, and then shoot in the next shooting phase, along with everybody else, and then, if anything survives, it gets army-wide overwatched on the way in and then still needs to beat up a T6 Sv2+/5++ monstrous creature.

And even if you pull it off, that's ONE riptide, likely of a few. And there's still the entire rest of the tau army. Which can still castle, throw up speedbumps, and do everything else that already was able to handle this kind of thing. But better, because they're tau.



how does the riptide fire its IA for interceptor and the fire the IA the following turn?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263035.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263035.page GMT Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?
 Ailaros wrote:
Yeah. The riptides shoot in interceptor, and then shoot in the next shooting phase, along with everybody else, and then, if anything survives, it gets army-wide overwatched on the way in and then still needs to beat up a T6 Sv2+/5++ monstrous creature.

And even if you pull it off, that's ONE riptide, likely of a few. And there's still the entire rest of the tau army. Which can still castle, throw up speedbumps, and do everything else that already was able to handle this kind of thing. But better, because they're tau.



Weapons that choose to fire using Interceptor do not fire in the following shooting phase.

Maybe a portion of your problem with Tau is a lack of understanding of the Rules or opponents who are misplaying them?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263100.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263100.page GMT Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263102.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263102.page GMT Re:Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?
 Veteran Sergeant wrote:
 Zagman wrote:
EVIL INC wrote:
Yes, tau is the current "broken army" that no one wants to face.


Old news, Eldar are the new Tau. More specifically Eldar/Tau. They are much nastier. Tau being ultra badass is old news, Eldar trump Tau in all respects and SM brought the answers to Riptides.

Tau is certainly not the Top army anymore.
Okay, so Tau are just the "other" broken codex? lol. Well that certainly makes things better.


It definitely one of the best Codices out right now, but with proper LOS blocking terrain Tau are dropping short of a particular build, the O'vesaStar, and being used as allies. Pure Tau really aren't doing that hot in a competitive sense since Eldar picked up speed and people realized that just about anything you could do with Tau, you can do with Eldar +Tau better. Marines also knocked down some of the competitive Tau builds as well. I highly doublt Tau will be in the number two seat much longer, I suspect they will have difficulty with the Tyranid, IG, and Ork releases that are coming. Anything that brings a rapid assault element can really hurt Tau.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263118.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263118.page GMT Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves? meq's problem with any kind of assault strat. Well, that and helldrakes. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263192.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263192.page GMT Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?
Zoot wrote:
I haven't played the game in a long time and I was wondering if Tau's 6th edition codex had made them playable in the current meta and if they were on the same power level as other races from 6th ed or even 5th ed (I can't imagine they would be able to beat imperial guard easily). I currently already own space wolves so I'm not sure if it'd be worth buying another army if it's not as strong as them.


I don't know what games these guys have been playing, but Tau by themselves are not that great, they are not terrible but not great either.

Space wolves by themselves are still formidable if the right person knows what they are doing. Now if you use Tau with the allies rules either as primary or ally detachment they are great in this way. I am not sure if necessarily better then space wolves.

It depends on how you run each army also, space wolves in this edition and current codex are best run without vehicles. Also Tau are easyr to take out since all you do is focus on their marker light units.

If you are doing allies then yes go tau but if you are sticking to one theme go space wolves.

Also are you playing casual games or competitive in tournaments?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263278.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263278.page GMT Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?
Space Wolves are one of the better armies for taking out Tau though. I have felt the pawprint of a Space Wolf on my neck a few times and am convinced that it is one of the better forces to take a Tau out and blister his behind.

the reason Tau seem better (slightly) to me is that they are UBER mobile. Mobility counters a lot and if you thought they were mobile before, LOOK OUT!

"Speed kills, peaches"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263969.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/563813/6263969.page GMT Which is considered more effective - Tau or Space Wolves?
Zagman wrote:Weapons that choose to fire using Interceptor do not fire in the following shooting phase.

Weapons can't. Models can. A riptide can fire one weapon using interceptor and then another weapon on the next turn. So can any model with both interceptor and multiple shooting weapon options.

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