http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net DE and I want to try out the new SM codex for the first time. I will be using Ultramarines as my chapter tactics and want to build a fun fluffy UM list. Please let me know your thoughts

HQ
Marneas Calgar
3 Honour guard with Chapter Banner

Elite
Dreadnought with TL Lascannon and Missile Launcher
Dreadnought with TL Lascannon and Missile Launcher
IronClad Dreadnought with Hurricane Bolters and seismic hammer (meltagun) In a Drop Pod

Troops
10 Tactical with Missile and flamer in Rhino
10 Tactical with Missile and flamer in Rhino

Fast
StormTalon with skyhammer
4 Bikes with 2 melta and MM attack bike

Heavy
Land Raider Crusader with MM (Calgar and Honour Guard in here)
Thunderfire Cannon
Predator with TL Lascannon and lascannon sponsons

1999pts

I will likely see plenty of venoms, a pair of ravagers, reavers and the duke in a blob of warriors camping his home base (likely send calgar right for this). Thanks]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564252/6269613.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564252/6269613.page GMT I like a more infantry based army with a tad bit of heavy support (typhoon speeders 1dread) plus its fluffy!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564252/6269626.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564252/6269626.page GMT DE doesn't really go to well. I need to pop those pesky venoms and ravagers and lascannons seem like the best method.
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Your AA's a bit light to be honest.

Rhinos for your other Honour Guard?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564252/6269665.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564252/6269665.page GMT DE so AA is not an issue as he has a pair of ravagers so only chance of seeing one flyer I feel.
Honour guard go with Calgar in LR.
I could drop a dread and the bikes and look at adding a stormraven but that may be a little too much as he will likely have very little AA of his own.
Thanks
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