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				<description><![CDATA[ This is what progressively Progressive administrations get you:<br /> <br /> They're keeping tabs on the Brits too.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div><br /> US and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> struck secret deal to allow NSA to 'unmask' Britons' personal data<br /> • 2007 deal allows NSA to store previously restricted material<br /> • <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> citizens not suspected of wrongdoing caught up in dragnet<br /> • Separate draft memo proposes US spying on 'Five-Eyes' allies<br /> Beta<br /> <br /> The memo explains that the US and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> 'worked together to come up with a new policy that expands the use of incidentally collected unminimized <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> data.'<br /> <br /> The phone, internet and email records of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> citizens not suspected of any wrongdoing have been analysed and stored by America's National Security Agency under a secret deal that was approved by British intelligence officials, according to documents from the whistleblower Edward Snowden.<br /> <br /> In the first explicit confirmation that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> citizens have been caught up in US mass surveillance programs, an NSA memo describes how in 2007 an agreement was reached that allowed the agency to "unmask" and hold on to personal data about Britons that had previously been off limits.<br /> <br /> The memo, published in a joint investigation by the Guardian and Britain's Channel 4 News, says the material is being put in databases where it can be made available to other members of the US intelligence and military community.<br /> <br /> Britain and the US are the main two partners in the 'Five-Eyes' intelligence-sharing alliance, which also includes Australia, New Zealand and Canada. Until now, it had been generally understood that the citizens of each country were protected from surveillance by any of the others.<br /> <br /> But the Snowden material reveals that:<br /> <br /> • In 2007, the rules were changed to allow the NSA to analyse and retain any British citizens' mobile phone and fax numbers, emails and IP addresses swept up by its dragnet. Previously, this data had been stripped out of NSA databases – "minimized", in intelligence agency parlance – under rules agreed between the two countries.<br /> <br /> • These communications were "incidentally collected" by the NSA, meaning the individuals were not the initial targets of surveillance operations and therefore were not suspected of wrongdoing.<br /> <br /> • The NSA has been using the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>UK</span> data to conduct so-called "pattern of life" or "contact-chaining" analyses, under which the agency can look up to three "hops" away from a target of interest – examining the communications of a friend of a friend of a friend. Guardian analysis suggests three hops for a typical Facebook user could pull the data of more than 5 million people into the dragnet. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> More here:<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/20/us-uk-secret-deal-surveillance-personal-data/print" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/20/us-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(134);'>uk</span>-secret-deal-surveillance-personal-data/print</a>]]></description>
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				<title>Re:NSA not just spying on US citizens</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Because the redcoats are trying to invade again?<br /> <br /> o.O]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:14:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6880127b6e995fd454f9893a61bc855b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564286/6270267.page"><b>Spacemanvic wrote:</b></a><br/>This is what progressively Progressive administrations get you:<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div><br /> • 2007 deal allows NSA to store previously restricted material<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Funny, Bush might not have been reactive, but I certainly wouldn't characterize him as progressively Progressive.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:28:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ DogofWar1]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5abe7738ca381d6a0379c9dfc090a3ce.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564286/6270486.page"><b>DogofWar1 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6880127b6e995fd454f9893a61bc855b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564286/6270267.page"><b>Spacemanvic wrote:</b></a><br/>This is what progressively Progressive administrations get you:<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div><br /> • 2007 deal allows NSA to store previously restricted material<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Funny, Bush might not have been reactive, but I certainly wouldn't characterize him as progressively Progressive.</div></blockquote><br /> Bush was a progressive repubeican, a little less so than his dad.  They were adherents to the idea that a strong central government was the way to go, the whole New World Order.....]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:07:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Spacemanvic]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6880127b6e995fd454f9893a61bc855b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564286/6270654.page"><b>Spacemanvic wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> Bush was a progressive repubeican, a little less so than his dad.  They were adherents to the idea that a strong central government was the way to go.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Oh, ok.  I thought you were trying to slip in a jab at Obama's administration with the "progressively Progressive" part.  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Still not sure I would characterize Bush as a progressive though.  He certainly wasn't socially progressive.  Progressive does not necessarily equal big government.  I think you're confusing progressive and statist.<br /> <br /> Bush was definitely statist, within certain realms of policy, but progressive is a bit much.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:11:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Spacemanvic wrote:</cite>repubeican</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> By far the nastiest of the political parties. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:11:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/5abe7738ca381d6a0379c9dfc090a3ce.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564286/6270670.page"><b>DogofWar1 wrote:</b></a><br/><blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/6880127b6e995fd454f9893a61bc855b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564286/6270654.page"><b>Spacemanvic wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> Bush was a progressive repubeican, a little less so than his dad.  They were adherents to the idea that a strong central government was the way to go.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Oh, ok.  I thought you were trying to slip in a jab at Obama's administration with the "progressively Progressive" part.  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Still not sure I would characterize Bush as a progressive though.  He certainly wasn't socially progressive.  Progressive does not necessarily equal big government.  I think you're confusing progressive and statist.<br /> <br /> Bush was definitely statist, within certain realms of policy, but progressive is a bit much.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> No doubt the Bush's are statists.  While they werent social progressive's, they were progressives in regards to their forms of government controls, especially in regards to violating areas of the US Constitution.  People refer to Bush 2 as a conservative, when clearly he wasnt.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:18:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Damn you politicians! &gt;_&lt;]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:28:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ FFS NSA, why do I keep picturing thousands of people reading thousands upon thousands of messages about cats? They have to be the most useless agency ever.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:33:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/db8c639d8469883ae1ddc9b3164737bd.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564286/6270775.page"><b>TheCustomLime wrote:</b></a><br/>FFS NSA, why do I keep picturing thousands of people reading thousands upon thousands of messages about cats? They have to be the most useless agency ever.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> But they have secretly stopped twelvety attacks on AMERICUH!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/db8c639d8469883ae1ddc9b3164737bd.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564286/6270775.page"><b>TheCustomLime wrote:</b></a><br/>FFS NSA, why do I keep picturing thousands of people reading thousands upon thousands of messages about cats? They have to be the most useless agency ever.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> But they're ahead of the game on the Lolz front!<br /> <br /> Soon they will have compiled their list of Bronys and their night of the long knives may begin!   <img src="/s/i/a/98211dee9c461fcb24c29d4004f43f7f.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So does this essentially prove that the NSA has been spying on me?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/23a34a2bec5cc19e5607c816afee0456.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564286/6271072.page"><b>-Shrike- wrote:</b></a><br/>So does this essentially prove that the NSA has been spying on me?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I think the NSA is spying on EVERYONE.<br /> <br /> Which is probably illegal and will be stopped, but in the meantime, they can enjoy all of the <font color='red'><b>[REDACTED]</b></font> porn I look at.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 20 Nov 2013 23:39:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Damn, I thought I was about to read about how NASA are spying on us with a giant orbital telescope. Color me disappointed. Carry on NSA, I hope you enjoy Vines compilations and bad fanfic. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ *Dons tinfoil hat*<br /> They might know what I watch, but they'll never know what I'm thinking!<br /> *maniacal laughter*]]></description>
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