http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Im going to a 1250 tournament.
Do you think that my list is a competitive one?, they're Iron Warriors.

- Abaddon the Despoiler
- 10 Cultists
- 10 Cultists
- 1 Heldrake with baleflamer
- 3 Obliterators MoN --- they are going to deep strike with Abaddon
- 6 Havocs MoN with 4 lascannons and Icon of Vengeance
- 5 Havocs MoN with 4 lascannons and Icon of Vengeance
- Aegis defence line with quad-gun

I think there will be kill points misions only and not objective-control ones. A lot of power gamers and cheesy lists.
What do you guys think? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564372/6272010.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564372/6272010.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564372/6272014.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564372/6272014.page GMT I also think you could do with more solid troops choices. 2 squads of 10 cultists won't stand up to much at all. And I don't see what abbaddon brings to the list other than being a point sink. Your oblits want to be shooting every turn and abbaddon wants to be in combat so that's a bad pairing straight away.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564372/6272737.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564372/6272737.page GMT with the points left over buff up the cultist squads which will help them last longer.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564372/6274324.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564372/6274324.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564372/6274750.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564372/6274750.page GMT
I wouldnt take an icon of vengeance on the havocs. If you're losing 3 havocs in a single round of shooting, whats left isnt worth spending 35 extra points to give them one more round of shooting, granted the one with the mark didnt die. If you're going to spend more points on a havoc squad, give them MoN or more bodies to take shots. dont worry about buying Icon of Veng or Veterans of the Long War.

You dont want to put abaddon in a squad of obliterators. Obliterators work best in shooting and abby in CC. They just dont work well together. If you want to deepstrike in the oblits for melta and TL flamer goodness, fine, but dont put them in cc.

id replace abby with a sorcerer and hope for invisibilty. Stick everything behind the ADL and use invis for a 2+ cover save on whatever unit you want. The sorcerer can also give fearless to whichever unit. Consider a vindicator.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564372/6275296.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564372/6275296.page GMT