Rawrgyle wrote:farsight enclaves cannot drop bonding

Missile Pods are tau shooting in god mode

Missile drones are better on the broadsides

Switch your stim inject and velocity tracker on the riptides. HBC + earth caste gets the velocity tracker, IA gets the stims.

In the bodygaurd, switch one of the fusion guys to plasma

Your pathfinders are going to get creamed early.

DirtyDeeds wrote:
Imo, you should ally with C:TE for a buffmander for your Farisight bomb. That way you can take the broadsides and one pathfinder squad without bonding knives. And just take Kroot for end game objective grabbers.

DirtyDeeds wrote:
Things you should consider...

You already have a Farsight bomb filled with AP1/2 weapons, is it really necessary to add another unit of Plasma Rifles?

One of the problems with a Farsight list is that it lacks the sheer weight of fire that Firewarriors can bring to the table top because each model is individually more expensive. But you can decrease this gap by introducing Burst Cannon squads with a Drone controller and Gun Drones (any number). One squad of these dudes will kill any vehicle with a rear armor or 11 or under, extremely effective against infantry, and can still pump out a decent number of wounds on TEQ. You already have one unit mixed with Flamers and Burst cannons, I would recommend giving each suit two burst cannons and equip two with a single flamer. I have had some flamer suits scatter too far away from their intended target and sadly get shot down in the following turn. The 18" range of the Burst cannons will insure that you can shoot SOMETHING.

OR...

Drop one Missile Pod from your Missile suits, add a Drone Controller to one, Target Lock to all three, and 6 Marker drones. You now have a second unit of marker lights that can Jump-Shoot-Jump AND have a 4+ armor.

TheBoy wrote:
If it were me I would tear apart your 3 man plasma missle for 3 solo squads just for the fact of more targets and they have to waste a squad on one guy plus you have the space to spare so why not xD

TheBoy wrote:
Sorry about that man I meant this squad :Crisis Team 2 (x3)- 159 1-2x Missile Pod, Bonded 2-2x Missile Pod, Bonded 3-2x Missile Pod, Bonded and keep em the same unless you want to repurpose them for specific tasks like mid range long range or hoard. Personaly plasma missle pos is one of the best configs imo its very versatile. And yea I meant spilt them into 3 separate troop choices.

DirtyDeeds wrote:
The only thing I'm having a hard time with is your lack of marker lights. I would recommend at least one more unit of 5 Pathfinders. Other than that, I think this list will work. You will make tweaks over time as you play your list; I rarely go two weeks in a row with the exact same list.

 The Shrike wrote:
I think Farsight bomb is an all or nothing affair.

If you're going with it you need to either go full O'Vesastar or full bomb with 7 escort bodyguards, 14 Gun drones, a buffmander (I take him over shadowsun but to each his own) and an allied Tigurius.

As for the rest of the list, you're missing out on one of the best things about enclaves, solo scoring suits. These work similar to solo paladins, only cheaper and better. You can reserve th, and/or hide them behind LOS, JSJ and then score late. It's one of the cheapest scoring units in the game : bonding and a missile pod, I even make it twin-linked.

You don't need VT on the Bsides, just EWO. Also, too many drones. Take 2 to eat ID wounds. A Shas'vre is usually advisable.

You should consider taking SMS on the riptides. It's so good. The other secondary systems are range limited in so many situations. SMS also has the most effective ripple fire against most opponents. Stims are a luxury. They pay for themselves if you save 1 wound but shouldn't be taken at te expense of max scoring units or better death dealers.

Firewarriors < Kroot.

No skyrays?

 The Shrike wrote:
I've played O'Vesastar and a more traditional bomb; both competitively. I took the former to DaBoyz GT (well, there was comp, so a dulled down version of it) and the latter in a league with other tournament players in the DC area.

Neither of them are fun to play. I'd say that about most deathstar lists. I have the most fun with a vanilla Enclaves list with a ton of suits (An all burst cannon team, an all plasma team, two x2fusion+x4flamer teams, two all Missile teams) some riptides a skyray, farsight, an allied buffmander and some kroot. It's balanced and thus leads to games with tactical flexibility and varied outcomes. Sure, it's not as competitive but it's still hard to fight against and has the tools to win if dice happen.

Moral of the story? With how rapidly the meta is evolving, just play what you want, how you want.