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The issue I wish to discuss is the vulnerability of the chariot when rolling on the damage table.

As an open topped vehicle with no weapon, slaanesh chariots of all varieties face a high probability of any damage roll effectively removing them for the rest of the game.

For example: A seeker chariot takes a penetrating hit from a weapon with an ap value higher than 2. On the damage table only a result of a 1 or 2 will not destroy the chariot, or will not immobilize it for the rest of the game (effectively removing it as a threat as it has no ranged weapons).
That's a 66% change that a penetrating hit from a high ap value weapon will put a chariot out of the game. ap 2 & 1 weapons further skew the numbers against the chariot, with an 83% and 100% chance to take the chariot out, respectively.

To add a little more durability to the chariot, I suggest a simple fix. Add weapons to the chariot.
The two Ideas I am considering at the moment are:

i) Give the chariot a lash of despair (range 12, str as user, ap- 2d6). This weapon can be used by anyone riding the chariot. Adding this weapon would not imbalance the chariot or warrant a points increase imo, and would help the chariot to ignore one weapon destroyed result. This little change would give the model more versatility, a little more protection, and would also fit the model and fluff.

ii) Redesign the "Flesh Shredder" rule (number of hull points determines number of d6 impact hits). Instead of this, give the chariots multiples of a new weapon, something along the lines of 'Scythed Wheels'. Each chariot would receive a number of scythed wheels equal to their hull points, and these wheels would determine the number of d6 impact hits generated, as opposed to hull points. Current strength and the rending rule would remain unchanged. The only difference is that the chariots do not lose effectiveness in their impact hits from losing hull points, but do from 'weapon destroyed' results.The models already have the aesthetics to represent this rule imo.

A further USR could be added if this change proved too insufficient. Like a reversed DA flyer rule: If the chariot rolls an immobilized result on the vehicle damage table, then it may instead count the result as weapon destroyed. It is assumed the Chariot has enough wheels and rotating spikes remaining to continue its charge regardless of the damage that has been inflicted. (Possibly make this a random ability? weapon destroyed result instead on a 4+?)

Thanks for reading, any comments and criticisms welcome. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564911/6281396.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564911/6281396.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564911/6296551.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564911/6296551.page GMT
But not having tried them out much yet, I don't have the experience needed to contribute.

The idea of basing the Hammer of Wrath hits on 'Weapons' that can be destroyed, thereby not turning that Vehicle Damage result into immobilisation sounds like a good idea.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564911/6296652.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564911/6296652.page GMT
A thought I had was maybe making it AV 11 all-round so MEQ can't punch it to death and are forced to use Krak Grenades? Though thinking about it now, it doesn't really accomplish much...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564911/6296663.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/564911/6296663.page GMT