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				<description><![CDATA[ Ok as i really want to give a challenging match to a white scars player at my shop i have been hard pressed to figure out what to use. it's 2000pt, here's what i have come up with so far. as of now i'm still unsure.<br /> huron blackheart.<br /> <br /> Hellbrute-125<br /> Plasma cannon.<br /> heavy flamer<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> Chosen-201<br /> 7models<br /> 5plasma guns<br /> rhino<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>-198<br /> 10 models<br /> 2x plasma guns<br /> vetrans<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>ccw</span> bought<br /> rhino<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>-188<br /> 10 models<br /> 2x melta guns<br /> vetrans<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>ccw</span> bought<br /> rhino-<br /> <br /> cultists-74<br /> 10 models<br /> mark of tzeentch<br /> heavystubber<br /> <br /> cultists-74<br /> 10 models<br /> mark of tzeentch<br /> heavystubber<br /> <br /> heldrake-170<br /> baleflamer<br /> <br /> <br /> chaos spawn-180<br /> 5 spawn<br /> mark of nurgle<br /> <br /> <br /> chaos havocs-148<br /> 4 autocannons<br /> 7models<br /> veterans<br /> <br /> chaos havocs-148<br /> 4 autocannons<br /> 7models<br /> veterans<br /> <br /> obliterators-228<br /> 3 obliterators<br /> mark of nurgle.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Cyvash]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Dude, the supreme answer to white scars is 5 man noise marines with a blast master, take like 5 squads of these. As many heldrakes as possible, and some oblits for good measure with the mark of nurgle. If you want to wipe him use noise marines as it's ap3 blast and ignores cover. Epic]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 8 Dec 2013 21:06:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SpankingApe]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567260/6323539.page"><b>SpankingApe wrote:</b></a><br/>Dude, the supreme answer to white scars is 5 man noise marines with a blast master, take like 5 squads of these. As many heldrakes as possible, and some oblits for good measure with the mark of nurgle. If you want to wipe him use noise marines as it's ap3 blast and ignores cover. Epic</div></blockquote><br /> well unfortunately i dont have any noise marines and only 1 Helldrake..]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 8 Dec 2013 21:10:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Cyvash]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ why have you marked your cultists...if you dropped marks you could buy more bodies and that prevents runaways and cultists should be in cover which at its worst is a 5+.<br /> <br /> white scars hit and run so engaging them in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> isn't a big deal for them they can just walk away and shoot your face the next turn. I hate to say it but maybe focus more on shooting elements of the army more than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span>. best way ADD more bodies with guns. he has a low model count assuming as white scars is primarily bikes, so that also means a low rate of fire. I would try to scrounge up a bastion or defence line with quad gun for your havocs as it provides a quad gun for the champion and in the case of the bastion heavy bolters for all your other men creating an edifice with 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> 4AC and a quad gun in a AV14 bunker that has the nice perk of preventing the havocs being locked in combat. its a pain in the ass to take out and effectively creates a 3ft zone of death that he wont want to enter.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 Dec 2013 10:09:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Blackskull]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Just take this:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span>- 2 nurgle wizards with terminator armour, mastery <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2<br /> <br /> Troops- 4 x30 cultist squads with no mark<br /> <br /> Elites- 2 x3 terminator units<br /> <br /> Fast- All Heldrakes that you can get<br /> <br /> Heavy- All Oblits you can get<br /> <br /> And congrats you won, cultists will kill bikes because sheer numbers. The nurgle wizard deepstrike with 3 terminators and psychic shriek anything within 12" to death. Heldrakes kill stuff. Oblits can assault cannon bikers or lascannon <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span>.<br /> <br /> So there you go this comes to around to 2102pts if your able to get 3 x3 Oblits 3 Heldrakes all 120 cultists 2 x3 terminators and 2 nurgle wizards.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 Dec 2013 17:06:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arbiter]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/2506aae38dce4d598f62254330d2d237.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/567260/6324965.page"><b>Blackskull wrote:</b></a><br/>why have you marked your cultists...if you dropped marks you could buy more bodies and that prevents runaways and cultists should be in cover which at its worst is a 5+.<br /> <br /> white scars hit and run so engaging them in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> isn't a big deal for them they can just walk away and shoot your face the next turn. I hate to say it but maybe focus more on shooting elements of the army more than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span>. best way ADD more bodies with guns. he has a low model count assuming as white scars is primarily bikes, so that also means a low rate of fire. I would try to scrounge up a bastion or defence line with quad gun for your havocs as it provides a quad gun for the champion and in the case of the bastion heavy bolters for all your other men creating an edifice with 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> 4AC and a quad gun in a AV14 bunker that has the nice perk of preventing the havocs being locked in combat. its a pain in the ass to take out and effectively creates a 3ft zone of death that he wont want to enter.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Yeah but it will only be 20pts off the cultists, i could always go mass thousand sons and a squad of plasma havocs, along with two obliterators squads. As of obtyaining a painted Bastion in two day is out of the question....]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 9 Dec 2013 17:08:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Cyvash]]></author>
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