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				<description><![CDATA[ Hey guys, this is my first army list, and I made 2 while I was at it. I was wondering if I could get some feedback as to where I should change them or what I'm missing etc. This will be a 750 point list. Thanks in advance.<br /> <br /> LIST 1:<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: The Emperor's Champion (with squad 2)<br /> -crusader squad 1: (9 initiates, 1 neophyte) with lascannon and plasmagun<br /> -crusader squad 2: (8 initiates, 1 neophyte) with flamer and multimelta<br /> -2 Rhinos, both with extra armour<br /> -Terminator Assault squad: (4 terminators, 1 sergeant) 2 with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> <br /> LIST 2:<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: Space Marine Captain (with squad 2)<br /> -Crusader squad 1: (8 initiates, 2 neophytes) with multimelta<br /> -Crusader squad 2: (7 initiates, 2 neophytes) <br /> -2 Rhinos both with extra armour<br /> -Terminator Assault squad: (4 terminators, 1 sergeant) 2 with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span><br /> -Dreadnought: with multi-melta and storm bolter <br /> <br /> I kind of like list two because of the dread that I added in however, throwing away the emperor's champion and a few weapons upgrades on the crusader squads could hurt me more than the dread adds. Also, wondering what a good mix of bolters and chainswords+bolt pistols would be. Thanks again for the feedback.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 12 Dec 2013 04:40:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ what do you want to do???<br /> <br /> personally list 1 is better <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>imo</span>. but you seem to running very much like tactical squads. this, I do not condone. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 12 Dec 2013 04:51:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Need Help With My First Army List: Black Templars</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ well I don't know an insane amount about the game as I am really new but I know I want to run in there and kill as many people as I can with chainswords and assault terminators  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">  if that's anything to go on.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 12 Dec 2013 04:55:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Consider something like this. Its fluffy, its fun, its fairly strong. <br />  If you have the models for it I mean. <br /> <br /> Helebrecht- 180<br /> 10 man crusader squad w/ sword brother w/ power sword (or maul), power fist, flamer, 5 shotgun neophytes.<br /> 10 man crusader squad w/ sword brother w/ power sword/maul, a powerfist, flamer, 5 shotgun neophytes<br /> 5 man crusader squad w/ a missile launcher (for back field obj. camping)<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> you can consider swapping out the flamers for melta guns. and drop the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> from the camping squad, or just drop them all together for some scouts. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 12 Dec 2013 04:57:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ raiden]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Need Help With My First Army List: Black Templars</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm kind of attached to the idea of assault terminators, I've watched some batreps and I think they are sweet looking with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> and pretty damn tough too. Would you guys recommend not including them though? I mean I understand I can add quite a bit more not having them]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 12 Dec 2013 05:11:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ in 750? its a, well, risk. <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 12 Dec 2013 05:16:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ raiden]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Need Help With My First Army List: Black Templars</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ ok, and what about the rhinos? I've heard that you really need rhinos to play black Templars successfully and that footslogging is a bad idea no?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 12 Dec 2013 14:28:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ depends. you can, but it limits you to 9-10 guys in a unit. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:33:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ raiden]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Need Help With My First Army List: Black Templars</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks Raiden, I'm going to post a new list up taking from your comments as well as some others from another website, let me know what you think.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 13 Dec 2013 03:56:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ andrewishere]]></author>
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