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				<title>500-&gt;1000-&gt;1500-&gt;2000 Dark Angels Space Marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hello.  I'm a new player building a list using the Dark Vengeance model set as a base.  My main goal is to make a list that grows well and is usable at 500, 1000, 1500, and 2000 points, and is able to give a good fight vs all comers.  My secondary goals are to try and be fluffy(And so avoid allying stuff like Xenos) and use the Company Master as an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>(because I think the models look cool). <br /> <br /> Here's what I have so far:<br /> <br /> ===First 500===<br /> 140 Company Master w/ arty armor, Thunder Hammer<br /> <br /> 225 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad w/ +5 marines, plasmagun, Lascannon, combi-melta, rhino, dozer blades<br /> <br /> 135 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad w/ plasma gun, combi-melta, rhino, dozer blades<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===2nd 500===<br /> 75 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(456);'>LS</span> Typhoon <br /> 75 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(456);'>LS</span> Typhoon <br /> <br /> 90 +5 Marines, Lascannon to second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squad<br /> <br /> 65 Whirlwind<br /> <br /> 65 Whirlwind<br /> <br /> 130 Vindicator w/ Dozer Blades<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ===3rd 500===<br /> 170: Command Squad w/ Apocathary, 4x boltguns(on vets for chainswords), 2xflamers(for boltpistols on two vets), 1xMeltagun(on apocathary, for chainsword), Rhino<br /> <br /> 110 Ravenwing Bikes w/ 2x Plasma Gun <br /> 55 Multimelta attack bike<br /> <br /> 110 Ravenwing Bikes w/ 2x Plasma Gun <br /> 55 Multimelta attack bike<br /> <br /> <br /> ===4th 500===<br /> 250 Deathwing Termies w/ Chainfist, Srgt=<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, assault cannon<br /> <br /> 250 Deathwing Termies w/ Chainfist, Srgt=<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, assault cannon<br /> <br /> <br /> My upfront questions are whether Dozer Blades are worth it on Rhinos, and whether Vet Sarges are worth it on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squads.  I'm also wondering if anyone has any alternate configurations of the Command Squad for 170 points or something similar for my Company Master to hang with.  There's a debate going around on the internet on whether Apocatharies have to have chainsword+narc or whether they can upgrade their weapons before becoming <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apocs</span> due to the wording on making a Vet an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>Apoc</span>, so I'd like a backup plan in case that is the case(because a model with a chainsword+<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>ccw</span> in a shooty army is <i>really dumb</i>).<br /> <br /> edit: forgot to add assault cannon to termies.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 13 Dec 2013 03:28:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ garter_snake]]></author>
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				<title>Re:500-&gt;1000-&gt;1500-&gt;2000 Dark Angels Space Marines</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ok first the little questions:<br /> Dozer blades on rhinos, I'd say no, keep them cheap and get more models<br /> Apothecary: No, you cannot upgrade them<br /> <br /> Ok now to address your list, first thing is are you sure you want to collect <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span>? Codex <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> uses much of the same models, and is by and large more competitive than <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span>. <br /> <br /> The best use of command squads in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> is for their banners, get the bolter banner or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> banner for best effect. <br /> Second of all, I would recommend not mixing weapons in squads. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 14 Dec 2013 15:30:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Big Blind Bill]]></author>
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