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				<title>Silly apoc list 3k C&amp;C welcome!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So in a couple weeks I'll be participating in a 4-10 player <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> game.  We each get 3k points and use standard <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> rules(is no force org). I've done the standard hardcore <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(7);'>apoc</span> list using my warhound and a normal army and while that's a lot of fun I wanted to do something different and silly. So I tried to come up with a rediculous unconventional deathstar list and this what I've come up with using models I own.  <br /> <br /> Initially we had all agreed we were gonna nerf StrD because our last few games have been super 1 sided so that's why I built this list as I wasn't expecting 2 large blasts to wipe my entire army ;p it turns out that's no longer the case and we will still be employing normal StrD; However, I've decided to take the list anyways.  So without further ado this is the most rediculous list I could come up with that actually seemed like it may work out pretty well.<br /> <br /> Inquisition<br /> 7x Ordo malleus inquisitor - terminator armor, psycannon, psyker 770<br /> 3xordo malleus inquisitor - terminator armor, psycannon 240<br /> <br /> Space marines<br /> Chapter master - bike, shield eternal, artificer, thunder hammer, teleport homer(white scars) 260<br /> Chapter master - bike, gorgon chain, artificer, thunder hammer, teleport homer (clan rakuan) 260<br /> Command squad - 4xgrav, apothecary, bikes 210<br /> 10xTH/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> terminators - (iron hands) 450<br /> <br /> Space wolves<br /> Wolf lord - bike, bear saga, runic armor, thunder hammer, storm shield 250<br /> Rune priest - bike, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2, runic armor, melta bombs 210<br /> Rune priest - bike, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2, runic armor 205<br /> <br /> Forgeworld/space marines<br /> Sevrin loth/tigurius - not sure here as I need to get gate of infinity to make the list work how I want, tiggy rolls for it, but loth has it guaranteed as well as null zone in case I don't get misfortune.  Loth offers more than tigurius to the list <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> but idk.  <br /> <br /> Total 3000 (depending on tigurius or loth and a few more upgrades. 165 or more for loth my friend with the badab book hasn't gotten back to me on his points cost)<br /> <br /> <br /> So basically the idea is the inquisitors and rune priests all roll on divination for as many precognition, prescience, fore warning, and misfortunes as I can get with 1 inquisitor keeping hammerhand. Then all the inquisitors all get attached to the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> termies. My buddy is bringing khan(only 1 unique had per army) so my biker star will have scout and he will then jump to the terminators if anything survives to give them Furious charge.  I plan to scout the bikes, then move the bikes, then gate of infinity the terminator blob off the teleport homers.  It's super gimmicky and cheesy and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>IMO</span> hilarious as hell.  <br /> <br /> I wanted to try and make it an all terminator blob but I don't know what I can do to make up the points for the bikes as I only have another 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> terminators, and 7 normal storm bolter/power fist terminator.  I also wanted it to have more firepower than just 10 psycannons but again I don't know what I can add without just adding more inquisitors.  <br /> <br /> The list puts out 40 twin linked psycannons + 12 twin linked grav + some useless bolters and such in shooting.  But if I can get it into assault thats where it just absolutely explodes just about anything it touches.  On the charge at full strength with the powers up and bike characters attached it puts out 40 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 9 force hammer attacks, 45 str10 thunder hammer attacks, and 8 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> 6 force sword attacks.  It also has 12 T5 2+3++ eternal warrior wounds, 4 t5 2+ Wounds, 10 t4 2+3++ wounds, and 30 t3 2+5++ wounds.<br /> <br /> So any thoughts?  Critiques on how stupid the list is? ;p ideas? ]]></description>
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				<title>Silly apoc list 3k C&amp;C welcome!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ The big problem you're going to have is that your unit has to walk across the board, and any <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(517);'>SD</span> the opponent has is just going to be brutal, removing hundreds of points with every shot. What you really need is to make two separate 15-model death stars and mount each one in a nice thunderhawk gunship. That way you can deliver them safely and you get two Thunderhawks out of the bargain! That said, I am assuming you don't have two Thunderhawk Gunships, unfortunate as that is. I don't have much in the way of suggestions beside that, but I will say you can get ahold of Sevrin Loth's updated rules on the Forge World site, no need to wait for a (possibly incorrect) points cost from your friend. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Dec 2013 20:32:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ thisisnotaseriousaccount]]></author>
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				<title>Silly apoc list 3k C&amp;C welcome!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Ahh thanks for the comments/suggestions! Your right unfortunately I don't have any thunderhawks as I'm currently in the process of scratch building one(like my warhound).  Once that's done this will be my preferred transport for stuff ;p<br /> <br /> But just as a quick retort, the terminators won't be walking as they will either be deep striking or using gate of infinity(why I need tiggy/Loth) with teleport homers from the bikes to stop scatter.  So the terminators will be moving as fast as the bikes can+6" so they are a bit quicker than just foot slogging.  We're also hoping that our team will have enough fast threats to make it so they wouldn't target my squads as heavily.  Teams will have balanced strD so the plan is hoping D targets D and allows some stuff to move less molested.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 15 Dec 2013 22:23:33]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Chancetragedy]]></author>
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