http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net ADL and blah blah, but I've painted (or am in the process of painting) my army Ulthwe and am trying to utilize more guardians, psykers, and an army without aspect warriors. Please let me know what you think. Only thing I'm wavering on is the War Walker loadout, if it should be twin brightlances or not. I know having 2 Wave serpents can dish out a lot of str6 fire, but it's a big loss if one goes down. I'd rather have the backup capability of the war walkers to mop up whatever comes out of the transports the Wraithknight and Vypers pop. Have at it!

Smaller Seer Council (1849pts)

Warlocks x4 (220pts)
Singing spear x4
Eldar Jetbike x4

HQ (205pts)

Farseer
Singing spear, The Spirit Stone of Anath'lan, Eldar Jetbike

Spiritseer

Troops (749pts)

10x Guardian with Wave Serpent
Heavy Weapons Platform (Shuriken cannon)
Holo-fields, Shuriken cannon, Twin-linked scatter lasers

6x Ranger

Windrider Jetbike 6x
2x Shuriken Cannons

Wraithblades (Ghost Axe and Forceshield) with Wave Serpent
Holo-fields, Shuriken cannon, Twin-linked scatter lasers

Fast Attack (225pts)

Vyper x3
Brightlance, Holo-fields

Heavy Support (450pts)

War Walker x3
Scatter laser, Starcannon

Wraithknight
Two Heavy Wraithcannons


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The vypers aren't very cost effective and their anti-av14 power is better used on the war walkers. I would change the vypers out for a small warp spider squad and change your war walkers to 2 walkers with 2 brightlances each.

I would also drop the 6 rangers as they won't be doing anything effective but sitting on an objective.

The points saved from the vypers and rangers should be used on a bigger seer council. I've always felt that the seer council is an all or nothing deal and half a squad is more of a nuisance than a threat. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/568960/6355884.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/568960/6355884.page GMT HS slot, and cheaper)

Rangers are not bad if used right, but agree you need a bigger council. at least 6 to really make it work.
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