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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello Dakka! We have a Christmas tournament at the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(38);'>FLGS</span> with some bonus prize support for the holidays.  Last year I was able to narrowly take first and net a sweet case.  This year I've adapted my list slightly and I would love some input.  We don't really have many other Chaos players in my area so any advice would be wonderful! Here's the list,<br /> <br /> Primary <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Daemon Prince(<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>, Warlord) 365<br /> -Tzeentch, Wings, Armor, ML3, Familiar, Gift, Black Mace<br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> x10 Chaos Space Marines 215 <br /> -x2 Plasma. Veterans, Rhino<br /> <br /> x21 Cultists 106<br /> x2 Flamer, <br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Heldrake 170<br /> -Baleflamer<br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> x2 Obliterators 152<br /> -Nurgle<br /> <br /> x2 Obliterators 152<br /> -Nurgle<br /> <br /> x7Havocs 141<br /> -x4 autocannons<br /> <br /> Allies:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Fateweaver 300<br /> <br /> Troops;<br /> x11 Pink Horrors 99<br /> <br /> Heavy Support;<br /> Daemon Prince 355<br /> -Tzeentch, Wings, Armor, Greater, Exalted ML3<br /> <br /> Any feedback is welcome, there are very few Tau and Eldar players in our area but plenty of other xenos and plenty of imperial players.  Happy holidays!<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Dec 2013 21:02:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1850 CSM/ CD would love some input!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ What powers do you intend the Daemon Princes to have?<br /> Have you considered replacing one of the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span>'s with Be'lakor?<br /> It looks to be a good take all comers army, with a good amount of skyfire.<br /> Additionally what about a second Helldrake?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Dec 2013 21:08:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm going to ask about proxying him, as I wont have mine till the week after the tournament.  I'm going for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(545);'>FF</span> and divination on the CD <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(630);'>FMC</span> and either biomancy or telepethy on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>csm</span> prince. He would make an easy swap for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> prince.  I dropped the 2nd drake for more oblits, 5 flyers seemed a little much. I just hate having 1 rhino on the table, it can't really survive my opponents entire <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span>.  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Dec 2013 21:16:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bloodecho]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f3f3aec0de62d8ada421633232a05b2c.jpeg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/569547/6365808.page"><b>Bloodecho wrote:</b></a><br/>I'm going to ask about proxying him, as I wont have mine till the week after the tournament.  I'm going for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(545);'>FF</span> and divination on the CD <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(630);'>FMC</span> and either biomancy or telepethy on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>csm</span> prince. He would make an easy swap for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> prince.  I dropped the 2nd drake for more oblits, 5 flyers seemed a little much. I just hate having 1 rhino on the table, it can't really survive my opponents entire <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(482);'>AT</span>.  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> </div></blockquote><br /> Well the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span>, Oblits, and the Helldrake appear to be your main damage dealers so I wouldn't worry about that.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Dec 2013 21:22:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ThePrimordial]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I might consider putting the Burning Brand of Skalathrax on the Winged <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>, so then he can fly around and not get killed so easily. If you're thinking about putting him with another unit, then why have wings? And if you're thinking about sending him into close combat, then you should put him in another units so he doesn't have to accept challenges and stuff. So I would either take off the wings or switch out the Black Mace.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Dec 2013 21:33:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Cool! I havent had as much time in 6th to play unfortunately so I'm a little rusty. I've been fairly pleased with how the oblits perform 2x2 rather than 3x3 for the cost, as it pays for the havoc squad.<br />  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 22 Dec 2013 21:41:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bloodecho]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looks very good, always pleasant to see a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> list especially one with a Tzeentch <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> and obliterators (my favorite units). ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Dec 2013 07:28:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lord of Iron]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f3d433fc3a731384034afd7860dc375b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/569547/6365849.page"><b>SignMaster99 wrote:</b></a><br/>I might consider putting the Burning Brand of Skalathrax on the Winged <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>, so then he can fly around and not get killed so easily. If you're thinking about putting him with another unit, then why have wings? And if you're thinking about sending him into close combat, then you should put him in another units so he doesn't have to accept challenges and stuff. So I would either take off the wings or switch out the Black Mace.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DPs</span> are not Independent Characters if I remember right, so they can't join units.<br /> <br /> <br /> As for the list, I like it.  Its nice to not see multiple drakes in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> list, nicer still to see actual MARINES in the list as well!  Although, I have to deduct style points for including Mark of Nurgle bearing units in what is almost 100% a Tzeentch list  <img src="/s/i/a/934fe4f0c85983a716e6680a72065e99.gif" border="0">  Why not go whole hog and swap <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span> out for the Mark of Tzeentch and give the Oblits a 4++?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 23 Dec 2013 15:26:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Oh yeah, it says that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DPs</span> are just Characters.  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0">  But why would you have a lone unit be a character? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 29 Dec 2013 20:01:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ SignMaster99]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1850 CSM/ CD would love some input!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f3d433fc3a731384034afd7860dc375b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/569547/6382708.page"><b>SignMaster99 wrote:</b></a><br/>Oh yeah, it says that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DPs</span> are just Characters.  <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0">  But why would you have a lone unit be a character? </div></blockquote><br /> Because of precision shots *unrestrained laughing*<br /> <br /> Apparently, it's "fun" to have your 200+ pts <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> get locked in a challenge half/all the time it's in combat.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Selym]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The reason I put my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> in a unit was so that wouldn't happen... now my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> army just kinda got screwed over...]]></description>
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