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				<description><![CDATA[ C&C appreciated. thanks:<br /> <br /> Tigurius	<br /> 	<br /> Devastator Centurions	270<br /> Missile Launchers	<br /> Grav-cannons	<br /> 	<br /> Stormraven	<br /> 	<br /> 2x Tactical Squad	195 x 2<br /> Multi-melta	<br /> Melta	<br /> Drop Pod	<br /> 	<br /> 	<br /> Tactical Squad	129<br /> Heavy Bolter	<br /> Drop Pod	<br /> 	<br /> Sternguard	292<br /> 6 combi bolters (3 Melta, 3 Flamer)	<br /> Drop Pod	<br /> 	<br /> Ironclad Dreadnaught	170<br /> Drop Pod	<br /> 	<br /> Stormtalon	125 x3<br /> Skyhammer	<br /> 	<br /> Tactics in brief:<br /> <br /> Turn 1 - <br /> Sternguard, Ironclad and 1 Melta Tactical squad down, take down the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> and Anti infantry pie plates.<br /> <br /> Turn 2 - <br /> Remaining pods with tacticals turn up.<br /> <br /> Tigurius with Centurions in Stormraven turn up with fliers.<br /> <br /> Turn 3 - <br /> Dakka<br /> ????<br /> Profit or complete anihilation.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:51:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Pods and Fliers, 2000 points.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Get rid of the missile launchers on the centurions, more shots via the hurricane bolters will help against anything the grav cannon is less effective against (5+ or 6+ saves). ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:18:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ IngenuityGap]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would do that, as the point is a good one, but they're already modelled on unfortunately. <br /> <br /> Though I would also say that I have dedicated units for performing certain actions. As the centurions are designed to squish <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MC</span> and the infantry to mop up more infantry.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:38:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tigurius]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Couple tweaks:<br /> <br /> The small tactical squad (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span>); don't you think for the points 5 scouts in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(440);'>LSS</span> would be better? You have more mobility than a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> and if you give them camo cloaks you've got the possibility of 2+ cover, unlike the marines. I say this because it seems as though they are most likely of your troops to be objective grabbing late. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(440);'>LSS</span> can zoom around and hide out of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span>. Once a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> comes in...that's where it is. You'd have options with scouts. And it's almost 30 points cheaper.<br /> <br /> As for the Sternguard; I would not recommend splitting their combi-weapon types without having enough to combat squad. If you had 10 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(215);'>SG</span> and still 6 combis, then 3 and 3 would be fine. One combat squad blows the transport, the other burns the contents. However, as it stands, you're going to come in, and then burn one set of 3, then ALL SIX sternies will be dead; 3 of which still having never fired a shot. Because make no mistake, they WILL be dead against pretty much anyone. That's their job. So I would just drop down to 5 guys with combi-melta in a pod. That's 205. They come in and pop a serpent and get you first blood then that's a fair trade.<br /> <br /> How's your meta? Are you guys allowing each other to take these new data slates? If so, drop down to 2 Storm Talons and run your air force as the new Storm Wing. You can use the spare points on more scoring or to double your Sternguard and do the combat squad tactic I described.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Dec 2013 16:11:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Shrike]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Pods and Fliers, 2000 points.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Your centurions cost 280 pts, and they should have an omniscope for another 10 pts]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 24 Dec 2013 19:39:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ spartiatis]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the feedback.<br /> <br /> I don't think I have much requirement for split fire to be honest, I'd rather have another combi melta on the Stern.<br /> <br /> @ Shrike - is 8 sternguard not enough to use that tactic?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Dec 2013 11:23:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tigurius]]></author>
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				<title>Pods and Fliers, 2000 points.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You need a full squad of ten men if you want to combat squad.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Dec 2013 11:48:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Jamo]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Good point. I might just have to be careful with how I use them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Dec 2013 11:58:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tigurius]]></author>
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				<title>Pods and Fliers, 2000 points.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Noob question: What do you expect the centurions to do that you could not do with relative points spent in a Devastator squad? I do not intend to sound bashy, just curious.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:06:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ groggeron]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I know how you intended the question Grog <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> 1: Grav cannons - 5 shots, kills heavy armour, look them up! <br /> 2: They are relentless.<br /> 3: Toughness 5<br /> 4: 2+ Armour save.<br /> 5. Two wounds.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:26:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tigurius]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Your Centurions are 280 points as equipped (split fire is very useful late game when there are stragglers to be finished off, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span> down to 1 wound etc and that ups the squad to just 290). Other than that I pretty much agree with everything The Shrike says. Listen to him.<br /> <br /> Ironclads should always be taken in pairs or not at all and should always have the heavy flamer. I would be tempted to drop it and your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(215);'>SG</span> down to 5 so you can get a second squad of Sternguard with combi-plasmas. <br /> <br /> Also get your melta <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads some combi meltas. Take those before you take the heavy weapon! I would even consider dropping them down to 5 men squads and dropping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> squad to get another Sternguard squad.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> Your Centurions are 280 points as equipped (split fire is very useful late game when there are stragglers to be finished off, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(93);'>MCs</span> down to 1 wound etc and that ups the squad to just 290). Other than that I pretty much agree with everything The Shrike says. Listen to him.<br /> <br /> Ironclads should always be taken in pairs or not at all and should always have the heavy flamer. I would be tempted to drop it and your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(215);'>SG</span> down to 5 so you can get a second squad of Sternguard with combi-plasmas. <br /> <br /> Also get your melta <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>tac</span> squads some combi meltas. Take those before you take the heavy weapon! I would even consider dropping them down to 5 men squads and dropping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(51);'>HB</span> squad to get another Sternguard squad.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> That should have been a list post instead of the double post grrr:<br /> <br />  Tigirius<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad: flamer, combi flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> 120<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Squad: flamer, combi flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> 120<br /> Scouts: Vet Sarge, Power maul, combi flamer, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCWs</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(440);'>LSS</span> Heavy flamer 135<br /> <br /> Sternguard: 4 combi meltas, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> 195<br /> Sternguard: 4 combi meltas, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> 195<br /> Sternguard: 5 combi plasmas, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> 205<br /> <br /> Storm Talon: Sky hammer 125<br /> Storm Talon: Sky hammer 125<br /> Storm Talon: Sky hammer 125<br /> <br /> Storm Raven 200<br /> Centurions: Grav, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>MLs</span>, Omniscope 290]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:54:00]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ FlingitNow]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the feedback. <br /> <br /> I'll play around with the list and see if I can max out the stern squad.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:53:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tigurius]]></author>
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