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				<title>1850 Aggressive Deathwing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b><br /> Belial <i>(<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(628);'>DWA</span>)</i><br /> Deathwing Command Squad <i>(goes in one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>)</i><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Champ, 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, 2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LCs</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Banner<br /> Techmarine <i>(ride between the crusaders)</i><br /> -Bike, PFG<br /> <br /> <b>Elites</b><br /> Deathwing Knights <i>(goes in the other <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>)</i><br /> <br /> <b>Troops</b><br /> Deathwing Squad <i>(home objective campers, or <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(628);'>DWA</span>)</i><br /> -2x <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(417);'>CML</span><br /> <br /> Deathwing Squad <i>(<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(628);'>DWA</span> with Beliel)</i><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span><br /> <br /> <b>Heavy Support</b><br /> Land Raider Crusader <i>(forward charge!!</i><br /> <br /> Land Raider Crusader <i>(all ahead full!! ..man I loved <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(168);'>BFG</span>)</i><br /> <br /> <i>1790pts</i><br /> <br /> To fill out the rest I've come up with two options.<br /> 1. Give both <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span> multi-meltas (I have no ranged heavy armor at this point), and the techmarine a servo-harness and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span> for the extra attack and support in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>. This is the more offensive option.<br /> 2. Give both <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span> Deathwing Vehicle. I've been saved by it plenty of times, but maybe the PFG is enough? However, I would be giving up 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MMs</span>, a servo-harness, and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>. Hmm...<br /> <br /> Any opinions? I realize <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> is not competitive, but it is an army I have and can easily travel with it since I'm at school. Thanks!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 26 Dec 2013 07:30:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1850 Aggressive Deathwing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ As soon as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> are a dedicated transport, you MUST take the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Vehicle upgrade. It's mandatory...<br /> <br /> So all in all you have 2 Scoring troops? Thats a wee bit low. If one gets taken out, You may find you loose the game by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(140);'>VP</span>. Your model count is also VERY low. Just a few bad rolls and you basically automatically lost the game.<br /> <br /> I'd drop 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> and add either some scouts or some tacs to camp home. Then go <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(628);'>DWA</span> in his face so he can't worry about that 60 pts troop thats sitting there guarding your home.<br /> Belial should go down with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(732);'>CS</span>, The more melee the marrier, and you have someone to "catch" the challange for him that might actually hurt someone.<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>Imo</span> an apothecary for these freaking expensve models is a must. Even one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> pays for itself (if you don't mind loosing a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>).<br /> <br /> This in turn endangers the existance of the Techmarine... Take a libby with the same loadout instead, way more useful.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 26 Dec 2013 19:36:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Thairne]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1850 Aggressive Deathwing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/1b83c307a3c969982e13be95280286b5.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/569988/6375690.page"><b>Thairne wrote:</b></a><br/>As soon as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> are a dedicated transport, you MUST take the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Vehicle upgrade. It's mandatory...</div></blockquote><br /> The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span> are Heavy Support, not dedicated transports.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>So all in all you have 2 Scoring troops? Thats a wee bit low. If one gets taken out, You may find you loose the game by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(140);'>VP</span>. Your model count is also VERY low. Just a few bad rolls and you basically automatically lost the game.</div></blockquote><br /> Yeah, this is my main concern too. My only option would be to swap out the Knights (losing their insane combat potential) or the Command Squad (losing out on the banner).<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Belial should go down with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(732);'>CS</span>, The more melee the marrier, and you have someone to "catch" the challange for him that might actually hurt someone.</div></blockquote><br /> I do agree with the melee potential, but the accurate <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(471);'>DS</span> is just too good. He can be dropped on an objective, or near the crusaders to support the combats they enable. <br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(72);'>Imo</span> an apothecary for these freaking expensve models is a must. Even one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> pays for itself (if you don't mind loosing a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>).</div></blockquote><br /> I have considered swapping the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> Banner for the Banner of Fortitude. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> Banner has done wonders in the past, but when my terminators are safe in reserve or in a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span>, I don't really need it. An apothecary really lowers the combat potential. I'm going for 2 very hard hitting units.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>This in turn endangers the existance of the Techmarine... Take a libby with the same loadout instead, way more useful.</div></blockquote><br /> I think swapping the techmarine for a libby is a great idea. The techmarine is much stronger in combat, but the libby is a much stronger support unit.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> is always going to be a low model count army, no doubt. My options come down to having toys like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRCs</span> and Knights, or more scoring bodies. I'm going to work on fixing this list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Dec 2013 21:28:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ i checked, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> IS a dedicated transport option AND a heavy support option.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 30 Dec 2013 05:26:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ OnlyWar]]></author>
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				<title>1850 Aggressive Deathwing</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/f9aee35c2216a5026949c36fdbd97af4.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/569988/6384021.page"><b>OnlyWar wrote:</b></a><br/>i checked, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(261);'>LRC</span> IS a dedicated transport option AND a heavy support option.</div></blockquote><br /> Absolutely correct. I meant in terms of my list they are Heavy Support.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 1 Jan 2014 20:14:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
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