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				<title>1500 Iron Hands with DA ally</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hey all, I'm a primarily <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> player looking to get some games with the more competitive <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> codex. Want to harness the awesomeness of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span> bike Chapter Master and experimenting with some allied synergies. Would this list be at least somewhat competitive?<br /> <br /> <br /> Primary Detachment <b>Iron Hands<br /> </b><br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b><br /> <br /> Chapter Master<br /> Bike<br /> Artificer Armor<br /> Shield Eternal<br /> Thunder Hammer<br /> <br /> Honor Guard<br /> 6x Veterans<br /> Champion<br /> Chapter Banner<br /> <br /> <b>Troops</b><br /> <br /> 5x Bike Squad<br /> 2x Grav Gun<br /> Attack bike (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>)<br /> <br /> 5x Bike Squad<br /> 2x Grav Gun<br /> Attack Bike (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>)<br /> <br /> <b>Heavy Support</b><br /> <br /> Stormraven Gunship<br /> <br /> Thunderfire Cannon<br /> <br /> <br /> Allied Detachment <b>Dark Angels</b><br /> <br /> <b><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span></b><br /> <br /> Librarian<br /> Bike<br /> Power Field Generator<br /> <br /> Ravenwing Command Squad<br /> <br /> 4x Ravenwing Black Knights<br /> Apothecary<br /> Ravenwing Grenade Launcher<br /> <br /> <b>Troops<br /> </b><br /> Scout Squad<br /> 5x Sniper Rifles<br /> ------------------------------<br /> 1500<br /> <br /> <br /> This is the core list. Chapter Master goes with RWBK and gets Scouts, Skilled Rider and Hit&Run to add to his already considerable power. Honor guard go into Stormraven and once they're on the field Librarian joins them with PFG to give them invuln save (and Fearless and Preferred Enemy: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>). I can play around with it a bit, for example dropping attack bikes and maybe one honor guard and squeeze enough points to take TriLas Predator for Anti-Tank. <br /> <br /> Another idea I like is trying to utilize that Dreadnought loading space in Stormraven and drop one along with Honor guard for fire support (maybe give it Assault Cannon/Missile Launcher?). It's pretty fluffy for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span> but again I'd have to drop something (most likely Attack Bikes) to fit it in. What do you think?<br /> <br /> This list also expands nicely to 1850-2000 but that's another story.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:09:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mossada]]></author>
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				<title>1500 Iron Hands with DA ally</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think a few grav centurions are scarier coming out of the raven with the PFG. T5, 2W, 2+/4++, and they can spam grav even if they're kicked out the door of a zooming flier. <br /> <br /> Also, have you considered using Clan Raukan in lieu of regular <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span>? They have some nifty wargear, most notably something called Gorgon's Chain. If you haven't taken wounds it gives you something like 3++, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(265);'>FNP</span> and 4+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(681);'>IWND</span>. I forget exactly, my buddy runs it. And it's like a chainmail cape or something so it can go over Artificier <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>. <br /> <br /> Otherwise looks good. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Dec 2013 03:43:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Shrike]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah actually this is meant to be Clan Raukaan force I just said <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span> for simplicity sake.  Not a fan of centurion I think they're overpriced and I have decent grav platforms with my bike squads. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:57:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mossada]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You cant take shield eternal if its clan raukaan. Just count it as normal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(445);'>IH</span> since you are not taking advantage of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(173);'>CR</span>. Gorgans chain is awsome. It gets weaker with each wound taken but still great.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 27 Dec 2013 13:03:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Poly Ranger]]></author>
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