Big Blind Bill wrote:
Lets consider what the DV starter gets first of all:

Company Master - Terrible terrible choice. Never before have the words "company master" and "competitive been used together in the same sentence in regards to DA in 6th.

Librarian - Fantastic choice, one of the best picks of the codex. Cheap prescience with access to PFG. If you aren't taking a special character, this should be your go to warlord.

Terminators - They are fluffy, they look cool, and unfortunately they are over costed. Not the most competitive choice in 6th ed meta.

Tac squad(s) - The staple of most base marine armies, reliable but not fantastic. Consider the librarian with PFG if you predict heldrakes.

RAS - Bike armies are a bike hit this edition, but one unit of 3 guys is going to find it tough to make much of a difference.

Overall, 750 isn't a lot to go with, and the base of your forces already uses up most of this. You do not have much in the way of scoring troops and your anti tank is pretty limited.

Still, imo the most competitive thing you could do if you wish to use all these models is count the Company master as Azreal (They have exactly the same wargear, right down to the feathered helmet).
This way you easily reach the 750 limit without spending any money at all (in fact some things will need to be cut as you will be a little over), and also your terminators and bikes become scoring which will greatly improve the list's competitiveness.
Azrael himself is a pretty decent model on his own. However at such low points you may find it difficult to justify 200+ on one character.

 Big Blind Bill wrote:

Still, imo the most competitive thing you could do if you wish to use all these models is count the Company master as Azreal (They have exactly the same wargear, right down to the feathered helmet).
This way you easily reach the 750 limit without spending any money at all (in fact some things will need to be cut as you will be a little over), and also your terminators and bikes become scoring which will greatly improve the list's competitiveness.

 Arcturus314 wrote:
Do you mean meltas mounted on attack bikes or like the plasma gun on one of the dv bikers?

 Brother Payne wrote:

 Arcturus314 wrote:
Do you mean meltas mounted on attack bikes or like the plasma gun on one of the dv bikers?

Like the plasma biker but meltas. Shouldn't be too hard to change the plasma guy's arm


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 Arcturus314 wrote:
OK I'll try taking something like this:

HQ: Azreal, librarian

Elite: Terminator squad with assault cannon, chainfist

Troops: Tac squad (5) w/ ML, Tac squad (5) w/ LC

Fast Attack: 3x ravenwing, 1 w/ meltagun

IMO, not enough body count and too many points in HQ.
Personally I wouldn't be taking Azrael at 750 but that's your choice. If you are taking him, don't take the Libby.
Also I'd be going 2 ML as lascannons are pretty limited and are also more expensive.
Finally I'd be want more bikes - at the moment that units pretty fragile...

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
Never take flak missiles, they are terribly overcosted. at 750 you shouldn't face many flyers, and 1 str 7 shot per turn won't do much.

If taking Azrael then I'd drop the librarian as well, too many points in HQ if you are taking both.

I've got a ravenwing army myself made of exclusively DV bikers, and the arms are very easy to convert to what weapon you need. I'd recommend metlas on the bikes, and never take plasma. If you want plasma bikers for DA then take a ravenwing command squad.

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
Heldrakes at 750 are a bit cheesy. Also 1 flakk shot will do nothing. It doesn't even have interceptor. It would be burnt off the board the moment the drake arrives.

If you are expecting flyers then a list change is needed. Probably a librarian with pfg and an aegis line with quad. But that will require a lot of reworking of your list.

 Brother Payne wrote:

 Big Blind Bill wrote:
Never take flak missiles, they are terribly overcosted. at 750 you shouldn't face many flyers, and 1 str 7 shot per turn won't do much.

If taking Azrael then I'd drop the librarian as well, too many points in HQ if you are taking both.

I've got a ravenwing army myself made of exclusively DV bikers, and the arms are very easy to convert to what weapon you need. I'd recommend metlas on the bikes, and never take plasma. If you want plasma bikers for DA then take a ravenwing command squad.

Bit late mate.


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Also I play a lot of 500pt games and I see flyers in those. Namely stormtalons and heldrakes. Basically every 500pt CSM list I've seen has a heldrake. So fliers at 750 won't be that uncommon.


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On that note: Arcturus what's your likely opposition?

HQ: Azreal

Troops: 5x terminators, AC, chainfist

Troops: 2x five man tac squad w/ ML

Troops: 4x bikers w/ meltagun