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Here is another Iron Hands list! Seems like these guys are gonna make Mech Marines popular again! I see lots of IH lists on here lately...

HQ1 Chapter Master in TDA, w/ Shield Eternal, TH, sprinkles, digiweps.

HQ2 Captain in Artificer w/ PW, P. Sword.
> Honor Guard, 3 guys, 1 Champ, all P. Swords, and Bolters

> Techmarine w/ Bolter and Harness.

T1 Tactical, 10 guys, ML w/ flakk, Plasma Gun. Sarge- Combi plas, chainsword, teleport homer
> Rhino

T2 Tactical, Same as above
> Rhino

E1 Venerable w/ TL Las, fist & flamer
> Drop Pod

E2 Venerable w/ TL Autocannons
> Drop Pod

E3 Terminator Squad, 5 guys, assault cannon, chainfist, sprinkles

H1 Predator w/ Triple Las

H2 Whirlwind

H3 Stalker

Aegis w/ Quad Gun, or Icarus ( whichever turns out to be more kick butt against flyers!)

The idea is to have the Captain and the HG hang out behind the Aegis line with the two weaker tanks and the Techmarine. Everything else is forward distraction, and scoring. I like the non LoS Whirlwind, he can maybe scoot around and let the Pred hang out with the Techmarine? I know TFC nets me another Techie but I think with all those IWND rolls, one Techie fixing stuff on a 3+ should be good enough. What I could do additionally is Drop Pod a Tactical Squad, have the Autocannon Dread out on turn 1, and use the extra points to grab another Techie. Would have to shave off a few points elsewhere to get exactly 2k but it could be done.

What do you guys think? More Techies? Heavier Tanks? Nix the Termies and run the CM with the Honor Guard and Captain? Maybe throw in some Scouts instead? Get a Locator Beacon on for the DPA on turn 1?

I don't know for sure. I only own like 1000pts of this list yet, kinda hoping for feedback before I commit the cash. I have the CM coming from France, eventually and I already kitbashed a Captain, so they are really kind of interchangeable, although it disturbs me to not have some kind of dedicated assault units...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/570742/6386941.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/570742/6386941.page GMT
I'll start from the top:

TDA is silly when you get a better invul from SE. Take Artificier. I know, I know, you want to deep strike him with the termies. We'll get to that.

The tactical squad is all types of wrong. Don't ever take an ML with flakk. You aren't Dark Angels, you have viable fliers and non-flier AA if you want to go that way. Also, you won't need the teleport homer (Because we're gonna get rid of those terminators). As a general note, your tactical marines shouldn't be aggressive enough to ever effectively deploy a teleport homer unless you're playing a drop pod list or something or you have a ton of them.

Ironclads > Venerable. You're podding in, so Meltas are better in close quarters than lascannons and autocannons. AV13 is also critical.

TH/SS termies still have their applications; depending on the list. But tactical terminators certainly do not.

Storm Raven > Predator+Whirlwind

Look, IH can be strong, but you need to really optimize your advantages in this xenos-dominated meta.

Tacticals, Ironclads, Stormravens, TFCs. Build around those.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/570742/6387012.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/570742/6387012.page GMT