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CCS creed, kell, deddpg, master of prdance, astropath, officer of the fleet
Carapace armour medipack melta bombs plasma gun, heavy flamer. 515pts

Commissar Garrick 185pts

700pts

Super heavies
Tank 500 pts

Elites
3 ogryns 130
10 darlings 100
Storm trooper squad x2 2 meltas 350 pts

580

Troops
2 vets with c. Armour 200 puts with 2 swords
Penal legion 80 pts
Chimera 55pts
Bastoone
2215

Fat attack
Armoured sentinel 75
Rough riders 85pts

Valkyrie 125pts

Heavy support
2 leman Russes 2885

Allies
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Warboss with klaw and attack and cybork b105
andzdakkabgutsmek 180pts

Elites

Nobz x10;heavy armour bigchoppas and waagh banner 395 and painboy

X15 lootas 225pts

Troops

Ork boyz
Add bpyz x26 nob with klaw 2 big shootas 280

Fast attack
5 deffkoptas with big bombs 250

Heavy support
Battlewagon kilkannpn def rolla, grot riggas kannon 4 big shoot as 205pts


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he would typically field something like this

Eldrad.
farseer on jet bike
rangers
fire prism
2x dire avengers in transports
guardians
wriathlord
night spinner
dark reapers
kanadris
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biker unit roughly 15
war walkers with scatter laser and bright lance
striking scorpions
fire dragons and
warp spiders.

the last game was very close 12 kps to 8 kps]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571220/6395229.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571220/6395229.page GMT
Also you are to low on troops.

Your list has a bunch of extra stuff you dont need.

Is that Nork deaddog in the CCS? if so drop him as hes a waste. heavy flamer is not worth its points on a standard guardsmen, you shouldnt really ever take all the advisors unless your using Creeds formation for apoc. Medic is also not worth it as the models are toughness 3, strength 6+ will still insta kill them and massed light arms fire will still kill them just as easily.

Yarrick is not worth his points either.

Ogryns??? 3 are not really worth it and footslodging across the board means they will get shot up and die. Only way to do ogryns is use the highest number you can to fit in a chimera with a lord commissar and rush them at the enemy. expensive and not very great but its the only way to make them mildly useful.

darlings? i assume ratlings? I dont think they are worth it in general. a couple of shots and these guys will be running.

Stormtroopers are good for their suicide melta rolls so your good there.

Your troops are to little. At this point level you should have so much more because once these guys are dead your best bet is to tie the game which will be really hard. Bastone is a waste. Vet squads are best with x3 plasma or x3 melta in a chimera and I wouldnt waste points on power swords when guard is meant to be shooty. Penal legion are really not worth their points and are a waste.

1 sentinel? I would drop it if you really only have 1, get more or it will be singled out and die.

rough riders are best used when you have multiples but they arent worth it as they are just fast guardsmen and will probably die before they cross table.

How is the Valkyrie 125pts? I thought its base points was 100? what upgrades do you have. Either run vendettas or valkyries with multiple rocket pods.

2 leman russes? are these just standard russes? personally I like standard russes but I If you want more bang for your buck use punishers with MM/LC or heavy bolters all around, or try a vanquisher with LC/MM or PC sponsons, or go with the executioner with LC/PC's. Those variants are more expensive but will do so much more than standard LRBT's

Hope this helps!


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And get rid of all the extra stuff I said was useless.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571220/6397514.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571220/6397514.page GMT
Also more Loota's ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571220/6398649.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571220/6398649.page GMT