<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "CSM list building vs new nids"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net CSM list building vs new nids MEQ meta (tau/eldar)
New nids will have a combination of swarm units and multi wound monstr creatures. I think this list would fair decently. The lord can destroy with his fist warriors or anything else not MC multi wound and also shoot the BBOS. The drake can do wounds to MC and burn stuff. The pleague bearers will camp objectives and fight MC in a worst case scenario. The GUO will destroy anything without EW and can put up a fight even against super nid CC MC.
The plagues will hold other objects and shoot MC on the go. The spawn protect the lord of shooting as well as help him clear swarm units. The oblits if they stay in the list are great because they are heavy flamers an lasc/plas shooting for bigger stuff.

Great Unclean One - Balesword, Greater Rewards x2, Psyker (Mastery Level 3 - Biomancy) -

10 plague bearers -
10 plague bearers -

Chaos Lord - sigil, BBOS, fist, bike, MoN -
4 Chaos Spawn MoN -

5 x plagues , meltas, rhino
5x plague, plasmas, rhino

MoN Obliterators x 2
Drake - 170

Gotta shave off about 100 points. Maybe take out the oblits and flush out the plague marines squads.
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In any case, your ability to kill MCs is fine, especially with an Abaddon addition; but I'm not seeing the horde-clearing ability. Especially if the rumors are true about Tervigons being able to spawn without crapping out. What point limit is this supposed to be?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6402337.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6402337.page GMT CSM list building vs new nids IIRC, they ignore cover and can make wrecking the horde a lot easier. I also think a Vindicator would be a GREAT idea, as it's gonna chew through hordes with the Demolisher cannon (S10 AP2).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6402761.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6402761.page GMT CSM list building vs new nids FNP. I'd say 3-4 squads built this way is good horde control. How about something like this:

Abaddon
Typhus

Plague Marines x5: x2 Flamers, Meltabombs- 170
Plague Marines x5: x2 Flamers, Meltabombs- 170
Plague Marines x5: x2 Plasmaguns, Meltabombs- 190
Plague Marines x5: x2 Plasmaguns, Meltabombs- 190

Helldrake- 170

GUO: ML3, x2 GR- 280

Plaguebearers x10
Plaguebearers x10

Total: 1845

This is not only good against bugs; it's a TAC. Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6403211.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6403211.page GMT CSM list building vs new nids http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6403278.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6403278.page GMT CSM list building vs new nids http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6403282.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6403282.page GMT CSM list building vs new nids
Granted, we'll see what type of AP2 the new codex has at its disposal but both of them can hold their own in combat and are pretty much immune to bug shooting.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6403359.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6403359.page GMT CSM list building vs new nids MC can just use smash attacks and kill him before his dumb I1 attacks. I like the list although I'd probably drop typhus take a land raider instead and throw abby and plague marines or something in the raider.

Additionally dropping both abby and typhus and just taking belakor instead might be the move.
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 The Shrike wrote:
Well, Nid shooting is ineffectual and they come to you. I wouldn't normally recommend it; but when fighting bugs, I think they'll be fine on foot.


It seems like this is a common misconception. So far, almost every game I've played, I have surprised my opponents with the ridiculous amount of ranged damage that Tyranids can put out. But we will see if the new codex still permits this... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6404132.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6404132.page GMT CSM list building vs new nids MC's and ground flyrants with devs. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6405205.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571435/6405205.page GMT