http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Honour guard
Priest, 4 melta guns
Pod

Furioso
Magna grapple, frag cannon, melta gun
Pod

Furioso
Magna grapple, frag cannon, melta gun
Pod

Furioso
Magna grapple, frag cannon, melta gun
Pod

Death company
10 death company, 2 powerfists
Pod

Assault squad
Flamer, 2 hand flamers
Pod

Assault squad
Flamer, 2 hand flamers
Pod

Assault squad
Flamer, 2 hand flamers
Pod

Assault squad
Flamer, 2 hand flamers
Pod

Stormraven
Tl Assault cannon, tl multimelta

Stormraven
TL Assault cannon, tl multimelta

2k

Furiosos, honour guard and death co pod down first and destroy all the tanks and transports. Assault squads pod down and flame all the units who are no longer in their transports whilst death co smash a few heads. Ravens do what ravens do...

Issue is that only 1100pts will be podding onto the board turn1.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571681/6403514.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571681/6403514.page GMT CSM, I've actually been able to cripple them before the helldrakes are a big factor. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571681/6403599.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571681/6403599.page GMT AA pays off? More bodies on the board I suppose. And if you hit them hard enough, their flyers come on to late to alter tye outcome... I'll experiment a bit and have a go with that route. Cheers for the pointer Martel!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571681/6403621.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571681/6403621.page GMT BA really can't field anything "good" meta wise except triple or quad Stormraven and hope for gimmick wins.

However, FNP jumpers bearing down coupled with drop fragnoughts and melta Sternguard can be problematic for some lists. CSM, like BA, suffer from model count, so if you can cause enough damage in the first two turns, their Helldrakes won't be able to do enough damage. You are pretty much putting your 1850 list in his deployment zone in 2 turns.

Add Mephiston to some lists for extra lulz.

The Tau don't care as much because they will bampf your Sternguard before they can fire.

Actually, now that you mention it, this list might become kinda fearsome if you ally in some White Scars and get some grav bikers to boot. Grav bikers can move even faster than BA ASM and have grav guns (duh). ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571681/6403657.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571681/6403657.page GMT
Librarian

Furioso x3
Magna grapple, frag cannon, melta
Pod

Death co
8 death co, 2 pfs
Pod

Assault squad x3
Flamer, 2 hand flamer
Pod

Baal pred x2
Flamestorm, heavy flamers

Allies (WS)
Captain
Bike, artificier armour, storm shield, power fist, grav gun.

Bike squad x2
5 bikes, 2 grav guns, combi grav.

2k

So sacrificing the 2 ravens, 1 assault squad, honour guard and 2 death co members, I get: tooled up captain, 2 grav bike squads and 2 baal preds. Both types of units chosen because they are good alpha strikers. If going second then the baals can outflank.
Better? Its all down to the alpha strike now though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571681/6403952.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571681/6403952.page GMT CSM are so few that this works pretty well.

Let me come with modifications to my own list and see what I get at 2K. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571681/6404070.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571681/6404070.page GMT