<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<rss version="2.0">
	<channel>
		<title><![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "1700 Tau DeathStar list"]]></title>
		<link>http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Latest messages posted in the thread "1700 Tau DeathStar list"]]></description>
		<generator>JForum - http://www.jforum.net</generator>
			<item>
				<title>1700 Tau DeathStar list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Greetings all, I've been planning on finally putting together my tau forces for a tournament later this month and wanted to run the list past the internet for opinons.  <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br />   I've been pretty enamoured with the idea of the farsight bomb+shadowsun and have built my list around that idea. (credit to Theorius for the loadout style from his <a href="http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/521966.page" target="_new" rel="nofollow">thread </a>on the topic.)<br /> <br /> so here goes:<br /> <br /> Commander Farsight                (165pts)<br /> Commander Shadowsun<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(184);'>Cmd</span> drone, 2 shield drones   (195pts)<br /> <br /> Crisis Bodyguard Team <br /> Bodyguard with the works, i.e. Vectored retro-thrusters; Drone controller; Neuroweb System Jammer; Repulsor impact field; CnC node; Puretide Engram Neurochip; Multi-spectrum Sensor Suit;<br /> Bodyguard target lock Plasma Plasma <br /> Bodyguard target lock Plasma Plasma<br /> Bodyguard target lock Plasma Plasma<br /> Bodyguard target lock Fusion Blaster Fusion Blaster<br /> Bodyguard target lock Missile Pod Missile Pod<br /> Bodyguard target lock Missile Pod Missile Pod<br /> +8 gun drones                               (605pts)<br /> <br /> 12 Fire Warriors (108pts)<br /> <br /> 12 Fire Warriors (108pts)<br /> <br /> 20 Kroot Carnivores<br /> Shaper                 (135pts)<br /> <br /> 6 Pathfinders <br /> Markerlights           (66pts)<br /> <br /> 4 Pathfinders         <br /> Markerlights          (44pts)<br /> <br /> HammerHead<br /> Sub rounds, smart missile sys, disruption pod<br /> cmdr longstrike    (191pts)<br /> <br /> Sky Ray                 <br /> Velocity Tracker, Smart missile sys, disruption pod<br />                                  (130pts)<br /> <br /> link to a nicer looking version <a href="http://hq-builder.com/shared/52bacd2a028dbb23b629ce76" target="_new" rel="nofollow">Here</a>.<br /> <br />   So there you have it. The plan is to eliminate main threats  to the deathstar as fast as possible (demolisher pie plates, precision shots, etc ) and dance the unit in and out in front of the opponents forces. Pathfinders will try and provide some markerlights at targets that really need to die, with the fire warriors and kroot providing bodies on ground. The skyray is in there to deal with the possibility of flier shenanigans and a few more markerlights.<br /> I am considering stripping some upgrades or extra guys to try and fit in a riptide somewhere as I just acquired one.<br /> <br />   I realize that this list is less 'competitive' and more 'taking all the cool things to play' with, so any suggestions of how to better the list while keeping the theme? <br /> <br /> Cheers  <img src="/s/i/a/80f14e5ffd51cd1bc51199153de3eacf.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
				<guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571780/6405051.page</guid>
				<link>http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571780/6405051.page</link>
				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 6 Jan 2014 03:43:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sanityl]]></author>
			</item>
			<item>
				<title>1700 Tau DeathStar list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ There have been plenty of FarSun threads where I've made my position known; but I'll give you the reader's digest:<br /> <br /> There's enough ignore cover around these days that Shadowsun's Stealth&Shrouded is somewhat diminished. This isn't the only problem. By taking her, you must place all the buffs on a 2W Bodyguard. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(420);'>TFCs</span> are very common these days. You also need to worry about Manticores from Guard, Biovores from Nids, any type of barrage weapon. The bodyguard isn't a character. He can't <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LOS</span> the wounds that go on him. He's going to fail his 3+s.<br /> <br /> The solution? Take a Buffmander instead. Now he's 4W. Doubles your durability. And, nice little bonus is now all your drones are BS5 from his controller. That's good, because you're going to have to trade some gun drones for shield drones to weather one round of AP2 from an Ion Accelerator or the like. <br /> <br /> Lastly, you need Tigurius. Without gate, you'll need to deep strike, leaving you at the mercy of reserves rolls and robbing you of precious shooting rounds. Even with an Aegis+Comms relay; you're still losing at least T1. AND; the bomb's worst enemy is intercepting Ion Accelerators; which are everywhere in tournaments. By arriving from reserve, you are subject to their wrath. Gate of Infinity protects you from that. You've got a 75% chance at it. Severin Loth can guarantee Gate, but that's only if Forge World is allowed.<br /> <br /> Ok, that's the bomb. Now on to how to support it.<br /> <br /> You don't need markerlights in a bomb list. Any points spent on anything other than scoring or fire support is wasted. Things that synergize well: <br /> <br /> Skyrays: The bomb lacks <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span>. You need 2 of these.<br /> <br /> Kroot: Duh.<br /> <br /> Missilesides: They're a source of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(658);'>EWO</span>; double as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(805);'>AA</span> in a pinch and have very versatile shooting. They can pop transports, but also have the volume of fire to take out high-wound count units. The bomb is going to be focused on killing elite things, these can focus on whittling down <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> Marines, Necron Warriors, etc. <br /> <br /> You won't have points for much else; here's a revised list for 1750; my way:<br /> <br /> Primary Detachment: Tau Empire<br /> <br /> Farsight<br /> Crisis Bodyguard: Plasma Rifle x2, Target Lock- 67<br /> Crisis Bodyguard: Plasma Rifle x2, Target Lock- 67<br /> Crisis Bodyguard: Plasma Rifle x2, Target Lock- 67<br /> Crisis Bodyguard: Plasma Rifle x2, Target Lock- 67<br /> Crisis Bodyguard: Missile Pod x2, Target Lock- 67<br /> Crisis Bodyguard: Fusion Blaster x2, Target Lock- 67<br /> Crisis Bodyguard: Fusion Blaster x2, Target Lock- 67<br /> Shield Drones x6- 72<br /> Gun Drones x9- 108<br /> Crisis Commander: Multi-spectrum Suite, Command and Control Node, Puretide Engram Chip, Vectored Rectro-thrusters, Drone Controller- 148<br /> <br /> Kroot x10: Hound- 65<br /> Kroot x10- 60<br /> <br /> Broadsides x3: x3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(658);'>EWO</span>- 210<br /> Skyray: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(655);'>BSF</span>- 116<br /> Skyray: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(655);'>BSF</span>- 116<br /> <br /> Secondary Detachment: Space Marines<br /> <br /> Tigurius<br /> <br /> Scouts x5<br /> <br /> Total: 1749]]></description>
				<guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571780/6405144.page</guid>
				<link>http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571780/6405144.page</link>
				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 6 Jan 2014 04:28:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Shrike]]></author>
			</item>
			<item>
				<title>1700 Tau DeathStar list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I would follow Shrikes advice. <br /> <br /> I'm only worried about the survivability the scoring units. Just play smart.  ]]></description>
				<guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571780/6405706.page</guid>
				<link>http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571780/6405706.page</link>
				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 6 Jan 2014 10:55:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Oscamus]]></author>
			</item>
			<item>
				<title>1700 Tau DeathStar list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah Shrikes list is pretty much perfect though personally I'd swap Tigirius for Severin Loth why roll hoping for Gate when you can guarantee it?<br /> <br /> I'm less convinced in the Shadowsun vs Buffmander debate and will say it depends on meta. The more ignores cover and barrage in your meta the better the buffmander looks.<br /> <br /> Otherwise listen to everything The Shrike has said about running the Farsight bomb. Pathfinders and big units of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(39);'>FWs</span> have NO place in the bomb.]]></description>
				<guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571780/6405896.page</guid>
				<link>http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571780/6405896.page</link>
				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:08:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ FlingitNow]]></author>
			</item>
			<item>
				<title>1700 Tau DeathStar list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the feedback, gate is an interesting option, especially in combo with Farsight's no scatter on deepstrike warlord trait. The vulnerability of the BuffGuard and taking a Buffmander instead of Shadowsun is an issue I'm going to have to weigh-up as theme vs competitiveness.<br /> <br /> Cheers again!<br /> ]]></description>
				<guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571780/6405897.page</guid>
				<link>http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571780/6405897.page</link>
				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:08:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ sanityl]]></author>
			</item>
			<item>
				<title>1700 Tau DeathStar list</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah I usually advise Tigurius and just put a caveat about "Of course, if Forge World is allowed, Loth all the way." If it's 1750.....he's probably west coast; so Loth is probably a go.]]></description>
				<guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571780/6407068.page</guid>
				<link>http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/571780/6407068.page</link>
				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 6 Jan 2014 19:16:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Shrike]]></author>
			</item>
	</channel>
</rss>