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				<title>The Empire-1500 points</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm just about to play my first Empire game, and I've made this army. Any thoughts?<br /> <br /> Balthasar Gelt            360<br /> Captain(<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span>/full plate armour/warhorse/barding/shield) 109<br /> Warrior Priest(warhorse/barding/heavy armour/shield/van hortsmann's specullum)  125<br /> <br /> Both in a unit of:<br /> 15 Inner circle knights(full command/banner of eternal flame)   415<br /> <br /> 2x Master Engineers<br /> 3x Great Cannons<br />  I'm going to play 2 games, one 1v1 game, and a 2v2 games, in which i'm going to be allied with a high elves army.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 6 Jan 2014 21:36:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ KeyserSoze]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looks good, but you have a lot of points in your deathstar.. Personally I think I'd drop a cannon and 2-3 knights to try squeezing in a unit of 3 demigryph knights for some more assault units.<br /> <br /> Let us know how your games go <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ GrafWattenburg]]></author>
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				<title>Re:The Empire-1500 points</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You dont have any core. Doesn't upgrading the knights to inner circle make them special choices?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 9 Jan 2014 20:15:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ blood lance]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ @blood lance, No it doesn't<br /> <br /> Also for 1500pts its a bit heavy on cannons, why not drop 1 cannon and buy the luminark of planets for the +1 to hit?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 9 Jan 2014 20:41:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arbiter]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks for the advice. Well  my games went really good, I won both.<br /> 1st game, allies with HE, we confronted <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> and O&G.My ally lost most of his units to their Hellcannon, and a succesful charge from Savage Orcs, so I had to play pretty much alone, plus his Alarielle miscasted and lost a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> and Soul Quench...<br /> So, my Cannons did outstanding <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(198);'>dmg</span>, killing heilcannon and Daemon Prince 3rd round, 3 goblin chariots and numerous models of goblins/chaos warriors, leading them to flee.<br /> Balthasar was constantly flying around spamming Final Transmutation/Searing Doom.Fianlly, my Knights with warrior priest charged a troll unit with Throgg.I casted my flaming attacks spell, they used their dispell scroll, but i had my flaming banner!Then Throgg challenged me, I accepted with warrior priest, used my item, switched stats and won, then easily killed the rest with flaming attacks, plus overunning their 4th and last chariot.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> 2nd game I played vs <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span>, was much easier thanks to :<br /> a)Balthasar(killed Daemon Prince with spells)<br /> b)their lack of mage<br /> 3)Cannons again!Engineers' re-rolls did their job, killed Hellcannon much earlier, 1st round, so I was just waiting back shooting,<br />  I killed Throgg easily again along with the chaos trolls.They tried to avoid confrontation but my M7 and a couple of good rolls I took the advantage,<br /> I know that 490 invested in cannons are too much, but the multiple wounds andrank penetration due to bounch really destroeyed them.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> @arbiter<br /> The army wasn't designed for close combat, the plan was destroying them from distance, then finishing them with Knights, and challenging a very strong hero/lord.<br /> <br /> <br /> @GrafWattenburg I don't like named overpriced characters, but Balthasar is kinda worth his points, fly/3+ ward vs shooting/+2 to cast metal spells??? I needed to try this gentleman!Plus in the 2 games I charged some fleeing or low on models units with swifstride.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 9 Jan 2014 22:53:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ KeyserSoze]]></author>
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				<title>The Empire-1500 points</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Not surprised you won really, balthasar gelt is a stud VS anything with good armour like <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> which you fought both times, also the main reason i suggested dropping a cannon was that you onlu had 2 engineers so that would take away the risk of that 1 cannon without an engineer exploding.<br /> <br /> Only changes that in my mins could help would be a luminark of planets for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>, or the luminark of light for the free ward save to anything including your cannons.<br /> <br /> But also maybe a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 1 wizard with beats for wild form could be a good investment I normally run 2 lvl1s in my 50man blocks of infantry because nothing is better then S4 T4 cannon fodder that is oh, so cheap and 10 ranks deep.<br /> <br /> One last thing is investing in a feed back scroll. some people don't like it because it costs a lot but at my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(38);'>FLGS</span> a normal skaven player runs a grey seer cheap with no gear other then lvl4 and its easy to kill a model with W2 when he goes for a big spell.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Jan 2014 16:28:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arbiter]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You are right overall. but at 1500 points I reached my Lord/Hero limits...Gelt 360, and I desperately neeeded 2 Engineers for cannons, a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span> mounted hero and priest with specullum, all summing to 365 points. And with Gelt it was kinda "all or nothing" strategy. I will consider your advice next time, I liked the Empire for:<br /> 1)Gelt(I don't really use named characters)<br /> 2)countless choices, especially shooting phase<br /> <br /> and for non-gaming reason:<br /> 3)lore/history/theme<br /> 4)nice models, although I haven't bought anything yet, I play with friends so I used unofficial models from other board games, but with the correct bases(25x25, 25x50 etc)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 11 Jan 2014 14:42:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ KeyserSoze]]></author>
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