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Azrael

Troops
5x Deathwing
5x Deathwing
Ravenwing Attack Squadron
6 bikes, 2x plasma guns, power sword, multi-melta attack bike, Landspeeder
Ravenwing Attack Squadron
6 bikes, 2x plasma guns, power sword, multi-melta attack bike, Landspeeder
10x Tactical Squad
Rhino
10x Tactical Squad
Rhino

Heavy Support
10x Devastators
Lascannons

Fortifications
Aegis Defense Line
Quad Gun

I still have some points to throw around. I don't know what options to give the Landspeeder, if any. I also don't know what options to give my Deathwing, if any. I hoping you might have some good ideas.
I've come to accept the fact that Tau and Eldar will probably at the top tables, and that the likely hood of me placing high is slim. My goal is to show up with very nice looking army that has the full flavor of Dark Angels

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I have to ask, where do you plan to put Azrael?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573135/6431920.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573135/6431920.page GMT 1999 Dark Angel Tournament Army - Advice/Opinion http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573135/6431941.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573135/6431941.page GMT 1999 Dark Angel Tournament Army - Advice/Opinion
Things on first glance...
Deathwing need a purpose. Want them shooty or assaulty? Or a mix for versality?

Drop the plasmas on the RWS for meltas. Plasmas are too expensive, you get a RW Black knight for the same cost.
Landspeeders do best as either Vehicle suicide killer (DS & Double MM), Infantrykiller (DS & flamers) or ranged support (HB&Typhoon).

Tacticals have no place in that list, that's why you take Azrael at all! You already have up to 8 scoring units already (if you combat squad the RWS).
Get Black Knights instead, as your list lacks serious firepower.

Drop the 5 extrawounds from the Devastators. No good to be done, they won't save you in a 2k+ game. Your army is an "in your face"-Style anyway, with upfront scouting bikes and DSing Termies. Hopefully your enemy won't have time to shoot at the Devastators.

However, if you want to have the "most competitive" setup, go pure RW with Black Knight spam.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573135/6432030.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573135/6432030.page GMT 1999 Dark Angel Tournament Army - Advice/Opinion
 bkiker wrote:
Oddly enough, Azrael is going to be in the back on the Quad Gun. Don't get me wrong; he's a good special character. He's just not front line material in my opinion.

100% correctomundo. Azreal will NEVER make it in CC. Too weak. Although Lion's Helm would work nicely in CC. If he wasn't so fragile.
You take him for his special rules. Otherwise, he's kinda useless.
No to the Tactical Squads. If you're gonna take them, then you've just defeated the point of Azreal.
No Devastators either. Bad idea.
For your Deathwing, it really depends. If you have lots of CC army players in your area (e.g. Tyranids, Orks, etc.), do this:
Heavy Flamer/CML
Ultimate horde killing abilities there.
If you face lots of shooty armies (e.g. IG, Tau etc.) then hit them hard with this:
TH/SS (This goes nicely against armies that have low AP), LC (if you face units with crappy AP in CC, go with this)
No plasma guns in Ravenwing Attack Squad. You should be getting Ravenwing Black Knights instead if you want that.
If you really have lots of points to spare you can throw in some DW Knights if you're fighting CSM or Horde armies. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573135/6432139.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573135/6432139.page GMT 1999 Dark Angel Tournament Army - Advice/Opinion CSM, then they still rock). Against hordes for that cost I'd rather get Whirlwinds or Flamer Landspeeders ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573135/6432321.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573135/6432321.page GMT 1999 Dark Angel Tournament Army - Advice/Opinion Devs.

Thanks for the help with the Deathwing and Ravenwing. I will toy with some lists and see what I can come up with.

I do want to remind everyone that I already basically know the list is not competitive. I'm shooting for a nice/solid all comers list that gets the groups approval based on it's style and look not whether or not I have an auto pilot list. (I know, I know; it's a strange and foreign concept to have going into a tournament.)


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Ok, I got some changes made.

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Azrael

Troops
5x Deathwing Terminators
Plasma Cannon or Assault Cannon

5x Deathwing Terminators
Plasma Cannon or Assault Cannon

Ravenwing Attack Squadron
2x Melta Guns, Power Sword, Multi-melta Attack Bike, Landspeeder Typhoon

Ravenwing Attack Squadron
2x Melta Guns, Power Sword, Multi-melta Attack Bike, Landspeeder Typhoon

10x Tactical Squad
Rhino, Plasma Gun

Fast Attack
5x Black Knights
1 Grenade Laucher

Heavy Support
5x Devastors
Lascannons

Fortification
Aegis Defense Lince
Icarus

I'm leaning towards the Plasma Cannon on the Deathwing as it would give me more points to toy around with as well as being fluffy.
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