http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net The idea is to flat out with the stormraven allowing turn 2 dread-drop sowing havoc and confusion, the stormraven then does as storm ravens do and blows things up with the help of extra armour to shake off stunned/ shaken results and techmarine to restore hull points (note the servo harness and three servitors gives a +4 to repair rolls so even on a roll of 1 a hull point is restored). The bike squads and rhino are self explanatory.
Ideas, improvements, deductions, comments all welcome. I'm a Necron player primarily and aside from fighting space marines have no experience with them; I'm just playing around with the codex.

HQ
Kor'Sarro Khan
- Moondrake
Total 150

Captain
- Bike
- Relic Blade
- Auspex
Total 140

Techmarine
- Servo Harness
Total 75

Techmarine
- Servo Harness
Total 75

Servitors
- Two Extra Models
Total 30

Servitors
- Two Extra Models
Total 30

Elite
Dreadnought
- Assault Cannon
- Heavy Flamer
- Extra Armour
- Venerable
Total 165

Dreadnought
- Assault Cannon
- Heavy Flamer
- Extra Armour
- Venerable
Total 165

Troop
Tactical Troop
- Storm Bolter
- Melta Bombs
- Heavy Bolter
Rhino
- Storm Bolter
Total 130

Tactical Troop
- Storm Bolter
- Melta Bombs
- Heavy Bolter
Rhino
- Storm Bolter
Total 130

Bike Squad
- Two Additional Bikes
- Vet
- Grav-gun
- Grav-pistol
Total 145

Bike Squad
- Two Additional Bikes
- Vet
- Grav-gun
- Grav-pistol
Total 145

Heavy Support
Stormraven Gunship
- Twin linked lascannon
- Twin linked multi-melta
- Hurricane Bolter
- Extra Armour
Total 235

Stormraven Gunship
- Twin linked lascannon
- Twin linked multi-melta
- Hurricane Bolter
- Extra Armour
Total 235]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573768/6443710.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573768/6443710.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573768/6467532.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573768/6467532.page GMT
Karsoh khan ain't that good,
Your captain ain't that good either,
I don't really like storm ravens too unpredictable as you don't know when they come in


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If your lucky it might work I would t advise it]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573768/6467582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573768/6467582.page GMT id stick some techmarines in there for survivability. the rest was just filling. bikes so i could have some speed and maneuverability and the rihnos to objective camp.

really all i want to keep is the raven comb what do you think i should change]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573768/6467619.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573768/6467619.page GMT I'd say, go full Iron Hands. Dreads and Ravens (+ Rhinos) are more survivable with IWND and all other guys gains FnP 6+, which has saved lots of marines from me in tight situations.
Drop both HQs and go a MoTF, drop the Techmarines, since they will die a fiery Death if/when the Ravens crash.
Keep the Bikes (with FnP!) and the Tacticals, and for the Points you saved on the Techmarines, get an extra tac squad to get your scoring up (since bikes aren't scoring now).
And I'd skip the Storm Bolter on the Tacticals, take a combi-weapon instead, plasma is good or flamers in case of hordes.
Also, skip the extra armour on the Dreads and ravens, just a Point drain. Might be that you can skip venerable as well.
Personally, I'd drop the Hurricane Bolters on the Ravens, they cost alot and you already have lots of anti-infantry.

Not sure about the Points, don't have the book with me.
But I'd suggest:


Master of the Forge - Combi-Weapon?


Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, Heavy Flamer

Dreadnought - Assault Cannon, Heavy Flamer


Tactical Squad - Heavy Bolter, Combi-Flamer, (you might want to add extra marines for survivability)
+ Rhino

Tactical Squad - Heavy Bolter, Combi-Flamer, (you might want to add extra marines for survivability)
+ Rhino

Tactical Squad - Heavy Bolter, Combi-Flamer, (you might want to add extra marines for survivability)
+ Rhino


Bike Squad - Grav-Gun, +2 guys (maybe add an attack bike?)

Bike Squad - Grav-Gun, +2 guys (maybe add an attack bike?)


Stormraven -TL MM, TL LC

Stormraven -TL MM, TL LC



Your main concern would be in Close combat, you dreads are OK, but you might need some extra punch.
I'm not sure about the Points, but maybe you can add a unit of Assault Terminators to ride in one of the Ravens?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573768/6467759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573768/6467759.page GMT

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so I've got 8 points to spend
what do you think


HQ
Master of the Forge -90
- Combi-Flamer 10
Total 100

Elite
Terminator Assault Squad -200
- Extra Model 40
- Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield 15
Total 255

Terminator Assault Squad -200
- Extra Model 40
- Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield 15
Total 255

Dreadnought -100
- Assault Cannon 20
- Heavy Flamer 10
- Venerable 25
Total 165

Troop
Tactical Troop -70
- Extra Models 42
- Storm Bolter 5
- Melta Bombs 5
- Heavy Bolter 10
Rhino -35
- Storm Bolter 5
Total 130

Tactical Troop -70
- Storm Bolter 5
- Melta Bombs 5
- Heavy Bolter 10
Rhino -35
- Storm Bolter 5
Total 130

Tactical Troop -70
- Storm Bolter 5
- Melta Bombs 5
- Heavy Bolter 10
Rhino -35
- Storm Bolter 5
Total 130

Heavy Support
Dreadnought -100
- Assault Cannon 20
- Heavy Flamer 10
- Venerable 25
Total 165

Stormraven Gunship -200
- Twin linked lascannon
- Twin linked multi-melta free
- Hurricane Bolter 30
Total 235

Stormraven Gunship -200
- Twin linked lascannon
- Twin linked multi-melta free
- Hurricane Bolter 30
Total 235
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You got a few Scoring units that can camp on objectives. A good punch in melee, anti-tank and air support. Should be fine I think. Only big problem is that the birds might not come in until late game, meaning your guys on the ground needs to sit tight until the part of your army that hurts (birds + termies and dreads) arrives. That's another reason why you should add the bikes instead of second termies, as they give you more units on the field from the start.

Also, you can't post the individual points for each upgrade, instead post the total points for each squad. Dakka-rules.
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Sorry I forgot about the rules on points, I took them out in the original list]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573768/6468626.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573768/6468626.page GMT