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				<title>1500 Imperial Fists</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I am wondering how this list would do in competitive play and if anything needs to be changed. I like the imperial fists a lot and I want to make the best list I can with them. I tried to make this list as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>TAC</span> as possible by having 15 potential blast templates to deal with hordes, plasma to deal with power/termie armor, tank hunter missile launchers to deal with tanks, and a Tank Hunter <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span>:5 quad-gun for anti-flyer. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>Tac</span> squads will combat squad down with the plasma cannon marines on home objectives. Any help is appreciated, thanks!<br /> <br /> Points: 1500<br /> Chapter Tactics: Imperial Fists<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: 255<br /> Chapter Master				<br /> + Artificer armor				<br /> + Power Fist						<br /> + The Shield Eternal<br /> + Combi-grav					<br /> + Space Marine bike					<br /> <br /> Troops: 750<br /> 10 Tactical Marines					<br /> + Plasma gun						<br /> + Heavy Bolter				<br /> + Rhino						<br /> 10 Tactical Marines					<br /> + Plasma gun						<br /> + Heavy Bolter				<br /> + Rhino						<br /> 10 Tactical Marines					<br /> + Plasma gun						<br /> + Heavy Bolter				<br /> + Rhino					<br /> 5 Bikers						<br /> + 2 Grav-guns						<br /> + Combi-grav						<br /> + Melta bombs					<br /> <br /> Heavy Support: 390 (they all have Tank Hunter)<br /> Devastator Squad				<br /> + 4 Missile Launchers				<br /> Devastator Squad				<br /> + 4 Missile Launchers			<br /> Devastator Squad				<br /> + 4 Missile Launchers		<br /> <br /> Fortification: 100	<br /> Aegis Defence Line					<br /> + quad-gun						<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 17 Jan 2014 03:53:07]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So will this list do okay in a competition?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jan 2014 02:39:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ grimgunman]]></author>
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				<title>1500 Imperial Fists</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ 2 things:<br /> <br /> the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span> cannot have the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>PF</span>, Shield Eternal AND combi-grav.  He's gotta swap one weapon for the Shield.<br /> <br /> at the competitive level you're gonna have a hard time dealing with flyer-heavy lists (Cron-Air and such) and I'm afraid a strong assault list might give you a hard time too (Daemons).<br /> <br /> It's a solid list overall, I'm just not sure about its merit in a tough competitive environment.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jan 2014 03:09:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ phoenix darkus]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ You would be better off taking a command squad with bikes for your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span> and for their weapons I'm guessing combi gravs and apothecary. Other then that looks good, for extra points drop the rhinos because all they do is give first blood, just camp everyone behind the aegis defense line.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:45:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Arbiter]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/d81b47dfb9a4f54637b4fde9fe70169b.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/573994/6464919.page"><b>Arbiter wrote:</b></a><br/>You would be better off taking a command squad with bikes for your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span> and for their weapons I'm guessing combi gravs and apothecary. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Except he has no  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> listed that can take a command squad.  He'd have to drop the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span> to a Captain perhaps, or add another <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> to take a Command Squad.<br /> <br /> <blockquote class="uncited"><div>Other then that looks good, for extra points drop the rhinos because all they do is give first blood, just camp everyone behind the aegis defense line.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> And not have scoring troops moving to objectives??  The Rhinos *may* give first blood (not always), but they'll get his scoring troops to their objective faster than them walking across the board will.<br /> <br /> @grimgunman - As mentioned, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(746);'>CM</span> can't take both weapons + shield eternal.  You're going to have to either make him a close combat monster or a ranged threat.  With SE, close combat monster is the typical choice.  If you're doing ranged perhaps drop SE and use a StormShield instead, then you can take both a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(20);'>CCW</span> + Ranged weapon.<br /> <br /> I like the triple <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>dev</span> squad idea but I'd consider giving one of them Lascannons instead of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span> for the really though <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span>.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:30:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Rorschach9]]></author>
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