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The space marine list should include the following must takes, as they are a staple in my setup I want to run, unless I'm convinced otherwise.

I'd be running:
Tigurius
Chapter master with 2+\3++
5 th/ss termies with CM
Land raider
3 dev centurions with ML/HB

I'm considering including an aegis defense with quad gun, but who knows.

For you more experienced SM players out there, how do you deal with flying circus?

It's usually something like:
Fateweaver
Keeper of secrets
3 daemon princes
Daemonettes]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6450529.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6450529.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6450846.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6450846.page GMT CSM list with the FMC, have you ever used the hyperios luanchers from FW? They are great for a very low point cost.
Also try focusing on one at a time if you can. Drop one from the sky and focus fire when he's down and kill to avoid him from taking flight again. One wound here and there won't help much. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6450895.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6450895.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6453772.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6453772.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6454028.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6454028.page GMT CM + Termies + land raider is much of a point sink and flying MC take evade them.
You need reliable firepower to take demons down. Razorbacks with assault cannons, sternguard, stormtalons, ravens and centurions a your best bet.
As above, pick one, ground it and kill it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6455434.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6455434.page GMT SW with a runepriest or 2 will often mitigate a lot of flying circus damage and protection.

2 Rune priests with 2 squads of grey hunters are hell for daemon players to deal with, especially if they set up in cover (no daemon grenades + runic weapon wounding on 2+ + counter attack has a good chance at ID any prince who charges them).

Push these 2 squads towards the centre of the board and you will make a huge bubble of 50% psychic power failure. They are very difficult for normal daemon troops to remove and are also scoring.


Tau allies are also a good choice. Skyfire, str 6 & 7 fire, massed firewarrior shots as well as SMS shooting out of LoS all cause problems for flying circus (along with many other armies). ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6459607.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6459607.page GMT Dev squads with flak missiles.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6459705.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6459705.page GMT
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Bolters! lots and lots and lots of bolters! Or skyfire. Force weapons are good too. If you SM folk have something that is S10 thats great too]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6462267.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574174/6462267.page GMT