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				<description><![CDATA[ Decided to try and make an 1850 point list that is heavily focused on Monstrous Daemons of Khorne. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> addition was mainly just so i could run another Daemon Prince and a Baledrake, and the Cultists should hopefully help with Objectives.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: <br /> Bloodthirster - 250<br /> <br /> Daemon Prince of Khorne w/ - 265<br /> Wings<br /> Power Armour<br /> The Black Mace<br /> <br /> Troops: <br /> 10x Bloodletters of Khorne - 100<br /> <br /> 10x Bloodletters of Khorne - 100<br /> <br /> 10x Cultists w/ - 56<br /> 1x Autogun<br /> 1x Flamer<br /> <br /> Fast Attack: <br /> Heldrake w/ - 170<br /> Baleflamer <br /> <br /> Heavy Support:<br /> Daemon Prince of Khorne w/ - 230<br /> Wings<br /> Axe of Khorne (From Lesser Reward)<br /> 1x Greater Reward<br /> <br /> Daemon Prince of Khorne w/ - 230<br /> Wings<br /> Axe of Khorne (From Lesser Reward)<br /> 1x Greater Reward<br /> <br /> Daemon Prince of Khorne w/ - 230<br /> Wings<br /> Axe of Khorne (From Lesser Reward)<br /> 1x Greater Reward<br /> <br /> 3x Obliterators w/ - 219<br /> Veterens of the Long War<br /> <br /> Total - 1850<br /> <br /> Anyone's thoughts or opinions would be most welcome.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Giglamesh]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I gotta say... I would not enjoy facing this!<br /> <br /> S it must be good!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Jan 2014 03:43:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Nightlord1987]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/220a31e1b9f5d8a21a32fcd782a8a58e.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/574599/6456242.page"><b>Nightlord1987 wrote:</b></a><br/>I gotta say... I would not enjoy facing this!<br /> <br /> S it must be good!<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> This. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(630);'>FMC</span> are fun, but can be a bit <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(280);'>OP</span> when people optimise the list. This looks like a great middle ground between taking pure fluff and something powerful.<br /> <br /> Lists like this are the only reason I still have my daemons, who are *this* close to being sold<br /> <br /> No flesh hounds though? I tried them once and sold my soul to Khorne immediately. After so long of medicore assault Orks it was great to have something that could actually beat face in hand to hand]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Jan 2014 04:39:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Dakkamite]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Chaos Daemons + CSM - 1850</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Oh god.<br /> <br /> The one weakness of these <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(630);'>FMC</span> lists is they have too few troops. Lose your oblits and take more troops. Why do you need them? Your 5 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(630);'>FMCs</span> and heldrake will kill everything, you need more tactical power, not more combat power. Consider getting the grimoire and throwing that on your heldrake for a 3++ save on him.<br /> <br /> Why the one autogun?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Jan 2014 05:21:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ changerofways]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Why would you use cultists for objective holding? If you're playing Daemons I would recommend getting Plaguebearers instead, really cheap and a 2+ cover save when going to ground with T4 , they are beast objective holders so I would replace them with plaguebearers, and why choose bloodletters of Khorne if you're not giving them the banner of blood? Consider putting those 20 extra points in both the squads of Bloodletters <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Jan 2014 12:49:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Eowyn Cloud]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would recommend some gifts on that thirster, They're not difficult to take down, and it's not difficult to get past that 3+ save and force some invulnerable saves.<br /> I'm with dropping the obliterators for more scoring, as well as those gifts. Plus if you take 2 greaters and a lesser, you can pair the axes and give him +1 attack for two specialist weapons]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:27:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ l000babyseals]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yeah, i'd definitely swap out those oblits for something better at holding objectives.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(325);'>TBH</span> I think that you'll be fine with 4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DPs</span> (including b-thirster) and swapping out the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DP</span> and oblits for something to make plauge marines troops. I'd either go typhus and one squad or cheap lord and two.<br /> <br /> I know that just going plaguebearers would probably be better in a competitive game, but Making the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> allies nurgle would be a lot more fluffy than just having a random group of nurglites in a khorne list.<br /> <br /> Edit: Oh, and remember that greater rewards are some of the best things in the daemons codex, and dropping 30pts elsewhere to upgrade those <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(262);'>DPs</span> of khorne rewards to them would go a long way.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:40:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ thetallestgiraffe]]></author>
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