barnowl wrote:
Flanking the Gaunts?

 FlingitNow wrote:
You have no unit to really outflank so Hive Commander is 20points put in the bin. With the Norn Crown he can potentially get a 30" Synapse range but he'll never live long enough to use it. As your Warlord he's got a big target on his head at the best of times making him super expensive and giving him no target saturation is just throwing him to the wolves.

Genestealers are poor they exist purely to spam turn 1 Horrors to pin your opponents. This work great in conjunction with Lictors and Mawlocs. But your 280 point units are big fat wastes of points. With no grenades they are a huge threat in combat and with 5+ armour they'll be luck to ever get there and they account for 560 points of your army. They will never ever earn their points back. Give them an ADL on the half way line to GtG behind whilst Horroring left right and centre and they are a good nuisance unit. They are not a combat unit. Let's put that unit of 20 up against a boltgun unit of 10 marines for literally half the cost. Let's say 1 round of shooting at long range whilst in cover followed by rapid fire and assault:

10 marines 6.67 hits 3.33 wounds. 2 dead stealers
20 rapid fire shots 13.33 hits 6.67 dead stealers
Another 2 due to overwatch. That's 10 dead before you get to combat. Another 2 go down in combat as no grenades makes you go last. 8 stealers attack back 2.67 marines die to rends 1.78 to other wounds so just over 4 marines. You're stuck in combat for at least another 2-3 rounds and probably come out the other side with about 2-3 stealers. If that was UMs with tactical and devastator doctrines you're looking at 16 dead stealers before you strike, similar with IFs or dakka banner etc and this is the tactical marine with boltgun one of the weakest units in the game.

Hormagaunts are a bit meh. Cheap screen is about it but with so little Synapse they are a liability.

Venomthropes are good but split them if you have spare elite slots. An ADL makes a huge difference to their effectiveness.

Trygon Primes are the worse HS choice now with Carnifexes being literally half the points and even the 2+ Save Tfex is cheaper now. Not to mention the firepower of Exocrine and Biovores or the hugely improved Mawlocs.