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				<description><![CDATA[ So after many trials and errors I think this is the way to go. <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span>- terminator librarian, force weapon , hood = 125<br /> <br /> Elites- Assault terminator squad, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> x5, flamestorm cannon x2, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> assault cannon =465 (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span> in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span>)<br /> <br /> Troops- Assault marines x6, razorback, chainsword/bolt pistols x6, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> plasmagun, lascannons = 173<br /> <br /> Assault marines x6, razorback, chainsword/bolt pistols x6, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> plasmagun, lascannons = 173<br /> <br /> Assault marines x6, razorback, chainsword/bolt pistols x6, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> heavy bolter = 138<br /> <br /> Death company dreadnought, blood talon w/ storm bolter, blood talon w/ meltagun = 125<br /> <br /> Death company x6 chainsword x4, bolt pistol x6, power weapon, power fist = 160<br /> <br /> Heavy support- Vindicator, demolisher cannon, storm bolter = 145<br /> <br /> Vindicator, demolisher cannon, storm bolter = 145<br /> <br /> Stormraven gunship, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> multi-melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> lascannon, bloodstrike missiles x4 = 200<br /> <br /> Total 1849]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 21 Jan 2014 20:27:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The_Red_Rage]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm assuming that both <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> Dread are in the Raven?<br /> <br /> That's dangerous business, the Stormraven is better as a gunship,<br /> so try to get the points for Drop Pods.<br /> <br /> Other than that this is an excellent <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:23:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Unless I'm incorrect on the use of fliers if it comes on turn two and flys up the feild turn 3 it can go into hover drop its units and fire its weapons and then return to flying and killing stuff.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:53:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The_Red_Rage]]></author>
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				<title>Re:blood angels 1850pts C&amp;C please</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This is correct. On Turn 3 (and your opponent's subsequent shooting phase) it is now a 200 pt, AV12, 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(661);'>HP</span> box that has wreaked untold havoc on turn 2 and unleashed Hell in the form of a dreadnought and Death Company on your turn three. This is the opposite of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(681);'>IWND</span>. It. Will. Die. and you have just sunk close to the cost of a Land Raider delivering an assault unit that will then die in the following turn after it finishes with its primary target. The Stormraven is a gunship that was mistakenly given transport capacity. If you want to drop something from it while it is zooming, feel free. It can't assault and it may die from the jump, but the alternative is much worse. The alternative means that your main source of anti-air and anti-tank is now gone and you have wasted its 3+ turns of usefulness and a chunk of change just to deliver a unit that will be subpar at best in today's meta. There is only one reason I can ever think to hover a Raven: if most everything else your opponent has is either tied up or dead and there's a tank that you absolutely must get a melta shot into the rear armor of to win the game. Even this is a gamble and I would still prefer to zoom it and take my chances with the Lascannon/assault cannon. Otherwise, treat it as a rule of thumb: never hover a Raven. It will be dead before you can say the words "It is now a Fast Skimmer"]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 21 Jan 2014 23:03:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bocatt]]></author>
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				<title>Re:blood angels 1850pts C&amp;C please</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So a quick change then to get units out of the raven. I didn't see the point of using drop pods considering I don't have many which means one turn one and the other maybe turn two so the first thing to drop would be dead before the second came down. So <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> gone to more useful units that can score and more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(9);'>AV</span>.<br />  <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span>- terminator librarian, force weapon , hood = 125 <br /> <br /> Elites- Assault terminator squad, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(224);'>TH</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(221);'>SS</span> x5, flamestorm cannon x2, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> assault cannon =465 (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>hq</span> in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span>) <br /> <br /> Troops- Assault marines x6, razorback, chainsword/bolt pistols x6, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> plasmagun, lascannons = 173 <br /> <br /> Assault marines x6, razorback, chainsword/bolt pistols x6, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> plasmagun, lascannons = 173 <br /> <br /> Assault marines x6, razorback, chainsword/bolt pistols x6, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> heavy bolter = 138 <br /> <br /> Assault marines x6, razorback, chainsword/bolt pistols x6, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> lascannon = 173<br /> <br /> Scout squad x5, sniper rifles, camo cloaks = 90pts<br /> <br /> Heavy support- Vindicator, demolisher cannon, storm bolter = 145 <br /> <br /> Vindicator, demolisher cannon, storm bolter = 145 <br /> <br /> Stormraven gunship, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> multi-melta, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> lascannon, bloodstrike missiles x4 = 200 <br /> <br /> Total 1847<br /> <br /> So that's 11 more scoring units more lascannon shots and some sniper rounds along with good cover]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jan 2014 00:10:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The_Red_Rage]]></author>
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				<title>Re:blood angels 1850pts C&amp;C please</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Looks fine to me. Feel free to use <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> and Dreads. I just don't recommend using a SR to deliver them unless you're just going to drop them on their heads. You can deliver them lots of other ways though. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jan 2014 05:30:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bocatt]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sponsons on your Flier are IMPORTANT. It helps a ridiculous amount if you can mow down troops and vehicles in your wake.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:58:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Glorywarrior]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ "The Stormraven is a gunship that was mistakenly given transport capacity"<br /> <br /> Except for cent <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(29);'>devs</span>. The Stormraven is a champ at dropping these guys off within grav cannon range. Unfortunately, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> don't have those. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:19:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Martel732]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I would ditch the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(349);'>DC</span> dread and get a Fragnought in Pod instead... if not enough points ditch a few upgrades.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 22 Jan 2014 17:59:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Glorywarrior]]></author>
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				<title>Re:blood angels 1850pts C&amp;C please</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks you all for Ur commentss thus far. To glorywarrior I dropped the dread all together cause drop pods are kind of pointless when not taken in 3's to drop 2 on turn one. And as far as the sponsons on the SR, I don't really see the point in more infantry killing I already have 2 Vindicators and a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(475);'>LRR</span> that's a hordes worse nightmare.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Jan 2014 04:29:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The_Red_Rage]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Alright, if you'd rather not have sponsons that's your choice. I just personally always like them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Jan 2014 13:56:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Glorywarrior]]></author>
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				<title>Re:blood angels 1850pts C&amp;C please</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ You can never have enough Dakka. Also, on a SR, you pay 30 pts for 6 TLd bolters. Assuming that 10 bolters cost 150 points (10 man tactical with no special weapons from C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span>) you get 3/5 that point cost, or 90 pts (15 per bolter) times 33% as Twin linking a BS4 weapon is roughly a 33% increase in hits and effectiveness. So you are getting 4 times your points investment in weapons. And you should always be firing at least one sponson. Even if you shoot two missiles and your nose and turret mounted weapons, you can still <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(470);'>PotMS</span> one of your hurricane bolter sponsons into a nearby unit of infantry. Once you're out of missiles and their tanks have been neutralized, feel free to mop up entire units of infantry with nose mounted and turret mounted weapons and both hurricane sponsons. You can even <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(470);'>PotMS</span> that multi melta into something else while you mow down grunts.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 24 Jan 2014 00:02:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bocatt]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Agreed]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:28:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Glorywarrior]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Can't tell you how many times I tried to make the stormraven work as a delivery system and it just doesn't. You are wasting too much time and the positioning for all that firepower for nothing. A drop pod is always a better option.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:09:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AngelusMortis]]></author>
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