http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Going to play at a tournament next week and wanted some constructive criticism regarding the list.
There will be 16 players, with the following armies (at least those i know for certain!):

3 x tyranids
2 x tau
1/2 x footslogging necrons
1 x space wolves (with lots of wolf riders)
1 x ravenwing
1 x guard (tank heavy)
1x eldar
1x drop pod vanilla marines

4/5 x unknown

I really want to play my DE, especially since they are fun, and because with the list (as it is now) tyranids is basically free win
While nids, wolves, necros and ravenwing are very nice matchups, I most certainly will lose vs tau, gonna need a gakload of luck to not get tabled there, guard is gonna be trouble as well...
Vs the drop pods it can go either way I guess.
As to the eldar, I have no clue what to even expect there, since none of my friends play them and I thus have very little experience, wraith-thingies will get crushed by all the poison gak but anything else?
Well here's the list anyways:


HQ

Haemonculus
- shattershard
- - - > 65 Pts

Elite

3 trueborn
- 3 x blaster
+ venom
- 2 x splintercannon
- - - > 146 Pts

3 trueborn
- 3 x blaster
+ venom
- 2 x splintercannon
- - - > 146 Pts

3 trueborn
- 3 x blaster
+ venom
- 2 x splintercannon
- - - > 146 Punkte

troops

5 wracks
+ venom
- 2 x splintercannon
- - - > 115 Pts

5 wracks
+ venom
- 2 x splintercannon
- - - > 115 Pts

5 wracks
+ venom
- 2 x splintercannon
- - - > 115 Pts

4 wracks
+ venom
- 2 x splintercannon
- - - > 115 Pts


fast attack

5x scourges
- 2x dark lance
- - - > 140 Pts

5x scourges
- 2x dark lance
- - - > 140 Pts

heavy support

razorwing
- dark lances
- twin-linked splinter rifle
- 4x monoscythe missile
- flickerfield
- - - > 155 Pts

razorwing
- dark lances
- twin-linked splinter rifle
- 4x monoscythe missile
- flickerfield
- - - > 155 Pts

voidraven
- flickerfield
- - - > 155 Pts

total pts: 1698


The haemy gear is just because i had the points to spend, and didn't know where else to put them.

As for the strategy:
Shoot a metric crap ton of poison shards at anything that moves while trying to stay out of range, keep scrouges somewhere in terrain focussing transports and tanks that get too close, then wait for air support to arrive and crush whatever is left...
Obviously anything anti air is prime target, but except for the tau i dont expect much to be played, the odd aegis here and there maybe some nid flyers (which will get splinter raped ).

Thanks in advance!

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Otherwise a nice list IMO.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/575255/6467056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/575255/6467056.page GMT Things I like:
HQ
Elites
Most of the troops...
Then not so much.

I highly recommend adding a liquifier to each of the wrack squads (except the squad of 4, which is where I assume the haemonculus goes). I"m really surprised that they aren't currently included.

I'd suggest against the scourges, at least for a tournament. You'd get so much more mileage out of more troop squads (wyches w/ haywire or any of the "classic" warrior layouts) or even some jetbikes.

Also recommend against more than one flyer. As previously noted, you need the darklances on the table at the start and your best bet is with ravagers. I'd go 2 ravagers and 1 razorwing.
Without them, you currently threaten with only 4ish darklight shots on the first turn (if you go first) because the trueborn blasters will only get snapshots if you get in range. And those are from the scourges assuming that they don't move. Very bad opener for DE in my opinion. Need to hit really hard as fast as possible to overcome our glass jaw.
If you expect (and worry about) fliers, I'd just take the ADL w/ quadgun. Not my normal choice because I don't like things that can't move, but better than waiting on your big guns.


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