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				<description><![CDATA[ I wanted to put together a list that wasn't 'the usual' but that could also compete at the highest levels. Here goes:<br /> <br /> Primary Detachment: Ultramarines<br /> <br /> Tigurius<br /> <br /> Ironclad Dreadnought: x2 Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod- 180<br /> Ironclad Dreadnought: x2 Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod- 180<br /> <br /> Scouts x5<br /> Scouts x5<br /> <br /> Assault Marines x5: x2 Flamers, Drop Pod- 95<br /> <br /> Centurion Devastators x6: Omniscope, Gravcannons+<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(243);'>amps</span>, hurricane bolters- 500<br /> Centurion Devastators x3: Omniscope, Gravcannons+<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(243);'>amps</span>, hurricane bolters- 260<br /> Stormraven: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(80);'>LC</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span>- 200<br /> <br /> Secondary Detachment: Dark Angels<br /> <br /> Librarian: Powerfield Generator, Auspex, Mastery Level 1 (Prescience)- 100<br /> <br /> Scouts x5: Sniper Rifles- 60<br /> <br /> Total: 1850<br /> <br /> So, how does this work? Well, like any Deathstar list it lives and dies on the efficacy of one unit. That unit is: Tiggy+<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> Libby+6 GravCents. The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> Libby grants the unit twin-linked and a 4++, which frees Tiggy from having to roll for prescience and forewarning. That allows him to go for things like Perfect Timing, Gate of Infinity, and/or any of the leadership shenanigans; opponent depending. I don't need to waste any time explaining how devastating the unit is in the shooting phase. It's a 30" death bubble that will dominate the middle of the field. Critically, it is strong enough, with the aid of the additional 3 centurions, to deal with other Deathstars like Jetseer and O'Vesastar. <br /> <br /> Deathstars, however scary, will fail if not properly supported. So what does the rest of the list do? <br /> <br /> The Ironclads drop in T1 and pin the opponent back. Hopefully they can get their flames over enemy scoring units. If one survives to get into combat T2, all the better but they are primarily distractions. My Deathstar (and additional cent unit) needs time to get upfield. <br /> <br /> The Stormraven, with 5 scouts inside, will likely be on T2, because of Tigurius. It can aid in the disposal of Riptides, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(128);'>TMCs</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(630);'>FMCs</span> or Wraithknights. It also keeps a scoring unit of mine safe in its belly provided I can protect the raven. The assault marines also drop T2, and burn more scoring units.<br /> <br /> The rest of my troops are held in reserve. Because of Tiggy being able to reroll reserves, I will keep them off as long as possible.<br /> <br /> Basically, the Ironclads and assault marines work like jabs while my centurions advance for the knockout uppercut. If I can keep my opponent's first  two shooting phases occupied with these units, he will be overwhelmed by my heavy hitters. In addition, I should have enough backfield threats to eliminate his scoring so that if my own feeble scoring is wiped out, I'll still be able to win on secondaries.<br /> <br /> Any good list today needs to be able to best Jetseer, Screamerstar and O'Vesastar (with up to 5 Riptides). This army has enough grav to deal with 1 and 3, and enough tarpitters (Ironclads) to deal with number 2. <br /> <br /> So, what do you think?<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> I guess it's perfect  <img src="/s/i/a/3280d57d913d8178fb42a55db16d1e89.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ The Shrike]]></author>
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