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				<title>2000pts. Ultramarines &quot;Tyranic Veterans&quot; </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Hello everyone, with the release of the "Dataslate Tyranic Veterans" It has perked my interest in potentially running a list of these guys using the custom formation found within it. Basically the rules of the formation "Saint Tylus Battle Force" are as follows:<br /> <br /> -Have to take Chaplin Cassius.<br /> -x1 Squad of Tyranic Veterans minimum and the cannot take a Drop Pod as dedicated transports. Have Hellfire Rounds only.<br /> -0-6 Stormtalons that can start on the table first turn but have to be hovering, also have infiltrate. <br /> -Fill the rest of the army with units from Codex: Space Marines. <br /> <br /> Now with the release of the Tyranids and the fact I love the idea of flyer heavy armies (I play Elysians currently) I have compiled a list based on this Data Slate which as far as I know, is a playable add on to the Codex exactly like a supplement. Now this is my first attempt at this list so please feel free to critique and voice your thoughts, thanks for posting!  <img src="/s/i/a/5d13fa41280d6fdef786d41bc175d3f6.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> <u><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: </u><br /> <br /> -Chaplin Cassius<br /> *w/ Infernus<br /> <br /> -Chapter Tactic: Ultramarines<br /> <br /> -Warlord Trait: Angel of Death<br /> <br /> <u>ELITES:</u><br /> <br /> -x6 Tyranic Veterans<br /> -Razorback<br /> *w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Assault Cannon<br /> <br /> <u>TROOPS:</u><br /> <br /> -x6 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>TAC</span> Marines<br /> *w/ Grav Gun<br /> -Razorback<br /> *w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Heavy Bolter<br /> <br /> -x6 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>TAC</span> Marines<br /> *w/ Grav Gun<br /> -Razorback<br /> *w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Heavy Bolter<br /> <br /> -x6 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>TAC</span> Marines<br /> *w/ Grav Gun<br /> -Razorback<br /> *w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Heavy Bolter<br /> <br /> -x6 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(167);'>TAC</span> Marines<br /> *w/ Grav Gun<br /> -Razorback<br /> *w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Heavy Bolter<br /> <br /> <u>FAST ATTACK:</u><br /> <br /> -Stormtalon Gunship<br /> *w/ Skyhammer Missiles<br /> <br /> -Stormtalon Gunship<br /> *w/ Skyhammer Missiles<br /> <br /> -Stormtalon Gunship<br /> *w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Lascannon<br /> <br /> -Stormtalon Gunship<br /> *w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Lascannon<br /> <br /> -Stormtalon Gunship<br /> *w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Lascannon<br /> <br /> <u>HEAVY SUPPORT:</u><br /> <br /> -x4 Centurion Devastators<br /> *w/ Grav Cannons, Missile Launchers <br /> <br /> <b>TOTAL ARMY: 1999 POINTS</b><br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 26 Jan 2014 07:38:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ gmaleron]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think it"s a viable list. Ensure any events you want to take it to allow Dataslates of course.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 26 Jan 2014 09:28:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ The Shrike]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2000pts. Ultramarines &quot;Tyranic Veterans&quot; </title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Why would I have to ask for permission? Are not the Data Slates basically supplements to the original Codex meaning I can take them regardless? ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 27 Jan 2014 05:26:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ gmaleron]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ A lot of dataslates break the fundamental rules of the game and that's why some tournaments aren't allowing them. This one for example allows you to start 6 Talons on the board. <br /> <br /> Personally if i was playing in a 1999+1 (single <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span>) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(48);'>GT</span> and played against this list with the flyers deployed on the board I would be more than a little peeved. Not because the list is overpowered or anything, but it breaks the game on a fundamental level.<br /> <br /> Hover or not they are on the board turn 1 instead of rolling for them to enter from reserve. If you go first turn they just zoom (i do not have the slate, unless there is a rule attached to them that they must hover throughout turn 1 you can just zoom them the same way an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(630);'>FMC</span> swoops after being deployed). <br /> <br /> Other slates let you add formations such as the new nid formations that otherwise would be impossible under the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span>.. at 1850 I can take my usual <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> slots plus throw in Deathleaper and 1-5 lictors.. the problem with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(540);'>DL</span> and lictors are that they take slots away from flyrants, zoes, venomthropes, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(337);'>HG</span> etc. <br /> <br /> Without the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(187);'>FOC</span> restricting them I can drop the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(540);'>DL</span> and Lictors in to guide mawlocs while still fielding a full compliment of Zoes and Venomthropes on the table and still have 2 Flyrants. Not to mention the Lictors in the formations can infiltrate within 6" of an enemy.. again it breaks the basic rules.<br /> <br /> As far as your list goes though, it looks solid. Great for a narrative/campaign game against a Nid army. I am in the anti-dataslate camp for tournaments though.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 27 Jan 2014 05:54:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ztryder]]></author>
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