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Sammael - 200 points

Deathwing Command Squad
Standered Of Fortune
Halberd Of Caliban
Apothecary
x3 ThunderHammers - 355 points

Ravenwing Command Squad
Standered Of Retribution
Grenade Launcher
Apothecary
Blade Of Caliban - 195 points

9 Deathwing Knights
Relic Of The Unforgiven - 429 points

Ravenwing Black Knights - 126 points

10 Deathwing Terminators
x5 ThunderHammers
x5 Lightning Claws
x2 Cyclone Missile Launchers - 515 points

10 Deathwing terminators
x2 assault cannons - 480 points

Land Speeder Vengeance
assault cannon - 160 points

Land Raider - 250

Ravenwing Support Squad x2 - 100 points

3000 Points ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576166/6478884.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576166/6478884.page GMT First of all, this is a fluffy list or a semi-competitive list?

In the first case, not much to say, it's fluffy so you play what you want.
If you want to play it in some tournaments then onestly it's a mess. Let's start:

Deathwing Command Squad: nice, but you could give a termi a CML without dropping anything they currently have.

Ravenwing Command Squad: nope, you can't take a second revered standard in you army, it's limited to one per army, then drop the blade, it's useless at I1, plus you can add two more bodies (FAQs)

Deathwing Knights: drop the relic (useless) and also against nearly everything more then 5 (max 6) boides are overkill, so you can drop 3-4 bodies and spare more points

Black Knights: at least 5 men squad with one GL, better if 6 with 2 GLs

Terminators: a 10 men squad is the same as a big moving target. Plus, giving them all CC weapons you waste the (nearly) only thing of our overcosted termies, twin-linked weapons when they arrive by DS, so made use of that and put some guns in it (CML is fine) but some more storm bolters aren't so bad, keep two SS in the front to take the savings (oh yes, sergents can't take TH/SS) so split in two 5 men squad with more guns! termis aren't so great in CC in 6th.
Nearly the same for the second squad without the CC part, simply split them up.

Vengeance: drop it! while the model is really cool (and i mean really really cool!) it's not worth the points, yes, the large plasma blast is nice but not so great (mainly for Gets Hot!)

Land Raider: crusader or reedemer nothing else to say

Support Squad: yeah, but make them Typhoons and possibly add a third speeder

So after having destroyed your list (sorry!) if you want to at least scratch some paint from you opponents army you got to reconsider doing pure RW/DW lists, yes they are fluffym yes to go well thogether (on the paper at least) but they are really point sinking so you'll deploy few models and some bad rolls can make you body count even lower (trust me, it's not funny to see 3 termis on 5 die with 1s...and i got all my armour trhows available)
Personally i nearly always deploy a Deathwing Knights unit, but i'm using more them one or two termis squads only in larger games (like 2500+) while bikes and black knights are a must in nearly every list i field.
Hope this helps!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576166/6479053.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576166/6479053.page GMT