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First i suppose i should explain my opponents will be: Grey Knights, Tyranids, Tau, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Chaos Daemons and Necrons - this will be in various game types but mostly multi army games rather than traditional 1v1.

Fists of the Emperor

Points: 1000 Army: Space Marines Chapter Tactics: Crimson Fists (or Ultramarines)

HQ:

Captain 160pts
　　- Artificer Armour
　　-Storm Shield
　　-Teeth of Terra
　　
Chaplain
　　-Jump Pack
　　-Storm Bolter
　　
Command Squad
　　-Company Champion
　　-Power Fist
　　-3x Power Weapons
　　-4x Storm Bolter

Troops:

Tactical Squad
　　-Flamer
　　-Veteran Sargeant
　　-Power Fist

Scout Squad
　　-4x Sniper Rifle
　　-Heavy Bolter
　　-5x Camo Cloak

Elite:

Vanguard Veteran Squad
　　-5x Jump Pack
　　-Power Fist
　　-4x Power Weapon

Ironclad Dreadnought
　　-Ironclad assault launchers

Probably a strange list to most as is my usual play style its an army made from models I enjoy any hints or tips would be appreciated especially with tabletop tactics with a list I was picturing more of a steady and safe progression with the TS, ID and CS with Captain attached. using the chaplain and vanguard to harass nightmare units such as GK's and my friends BA who are less well equipped but larger in numbers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576179/6479063.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576179/6479063.page GMT A few things to consider are that the storm bolters are a bit of a waste of points because if you take the bolt pistols, you gain the extra attack. Vanguard vets are a bit soft and overpriced especially with all the shooting going around, but are a fun unit to play with. My main concern though is that you only have 10 scoring models which in my opinion is not enough.

One last thing, in the forum rules it says not to list the individual points cost of every upgrade, instead just the total for the entire unit. I believe this has something to do with copyright from GW.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576179/6480134.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576179/6480134.page GMT
The storm bolters the thinking was to bring my shooting up a little but I understand the bolt pistol thing, may have to try bolt pistols first and see where I fall down.

I have an alternative list for objective games it's all ultramarines with tactical squads and captain and a dread/or legion opponent depending for support this is more a casual KP list.

And thanks I didn't realise I will edit those out makes sense means people still have to buy codices.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576179/6481413.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576179/6481413.page GMT