http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net CSM khorne Allie deamons, next I lost vs blood angels and final I got tabled vs imperial guard mech list/ 3 vendettas and CSM allies Heldrake ... Please help.

Chaos lord- MoN, palaquin of nurgle, plasma pistol
Deamon prince- DoT, 3 psyker, spell familiar, black mace, wings, power armor
2 squads Plague marines x10 2 meltas, meltas bomb, rhino havoc launcher
1 squad plague marines- 10x -gift of mutation
Heldrake baleflamer
2x obliterators-MoN
2x obliterators-MoN ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576441/6482410.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576441/6482410.page GMT FMC, so if I were to guess, he often got killed on his way to smash face.

Remember, if a unit must be played aggressively to be effective, but isnt durable, then you must take 2 or 3 of that unit. I don't think I've ever heard of someone using a single FMC and it doing well, unless we're talking a 500 point game.

Your lord, oh my lord, your lord
Hes a super fat space marine that all the other marines make fun of. He doesnt actually kill anyone, and the 15 points you did put into him for killing power was a plasma pistol. If you just want to take him to unlock PMs as troops, thats fine, but keep him cheap. Maybe take the burning brand of skalathrax, and thats it.

havoc launchers arent the best. rhinos dont last long, so you want to use them to get their troops where you want them. Move flat out during the shooting phase, dont fire your havoc launcher.

also im not sure what your 10 man PM squad is up to. Doesnt seem like it will do much, just a ton of points for 10 bolters that will fire all game without rapid fire, for the most part.

Basically you have taken a lot of points that are not effective, and you are totally misusing both of your HQs and your 10 man PM squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576441/6482839.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576441/6482839.page GMT DP kept getting taken out asap he didn't last too long at all. I think I took to much on him. I did Psycher 3 for the purpose of getting Iron Arm for him but in the 3rd game i didn't get it kind of screwing me...that and it was against an IP/CSM Allies, He had 3 vendettas, 1 hell drake and like 6 chimeras. I almost got tabled if it wasnt for my plague marines holding tough. I had no answer for any of his stuff after he immediately killed my DP in one turn as well as killing my obliterators. After that he had 4 flyers wrecking my face. How should I have worked my list to take care of a mech list like that?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576441/6484273.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576441/6484273.page GMT