<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Airbrushing Red over Black"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/8.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Airbrushing Red over Black
I'm working on an airbrush scheme for my Lizardmen. For Saurus and Skinks, I'm going light green belly to black scales and then a red/orange stripe down the spine. Excuse the terrible quality iphone 3GS photos, but this is just to give you an idea of where I'm at with it at the moment:




However this means I'm airbrusing red over black, and then orange over red. To do this, would you typically spray white over the black before the red? I found to get the orange to "pop" I had to do white over the red, so black -> red -> white -> orange.

Would you normally go black -> white -> red -> white -> orange?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6483838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6483838.page GMT Airbrushing Red over Black So the order will be something like this black--->white--->red--->(yellow highlight where you want orange to pop)--->Orange.
On the areas you want your red to blend with green spray some dark brown or ever better burnt umber color so you create a nice transition from red to green.
Hope I helped
BTW i really like your color scheme . A little effort and it will look ace .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6484097.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6484097.page GMT Airbrushing Red over Black lol.

I'm still getting the hang of the airbrush, these models have some splattering where the nozzle or needle was a bit dirty and I probably should have cleaned it instead of persisting. Also a couple of areas where I aimed badly with the airbrush and got colour where I didn't to, lol. I'm practicing on the Saurus before I get to the Skinks because the Skinks will take a lot more fine control of the brush, lol.

Started using VMA paints and they make airbrushing a lot easier. Since they are closer to the right consistency to begin with, it takes less guessing to get it right on and they do seem to clog less than citadels, at least so far (did get a bit of clogging with the white for some reason that caused the aforementioned splattering).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6484302.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6484302.page GMT Airbrushing Red over Black
To avoid clogging your airbrush dilute the paint separately and then add it inside your airbrush. If you are set to dilute inside the airbrush then first add any thinner (eg water) and then add the paint inside the airbrush cup.

Use a wet q-tip and carefully clean your airbrush needle when you see color gathering up. I find that a lot better than pinching the needle from time to time.

Airbrush control is all about practice but keeping your needle clean and your color diluted properly will avoid clogging and splattering. If you want to avoid overspray marks you can begin by applying the lighter colors and proceed applying the darker ones. Following this order whenever possible will create less light colored dots on top of dark colors. Also it is a lot easier to put a dark color on top of a light one than vice versa.

Any way practice practice and then practice some more and if you have any more questions we are more than happy to help you .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6485806.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6485806.page GMT Airbrushing Red over Black
I made life hard for myself by going bright green belly, dark scales, but the bright orange spine, makes it hard to avoid having to do a bright colour over a darker one. I decided to do the spine last even though it's the brightest largely because doing the intermediate green that covers most the model, it's hard to avoid accidentally spraying other parts of the model.

So on those models I've actually gone... light green -> intermediate green -> touch up light green -> dark green (almost black) -> red -> white -> orange. With your suggestion the next ones I'll try white before the red and then a yellow.

It does seem the VMA orange isn't suited to covering anything, it looks vibrant when you spray it over white, but barely shows up when you do it on anything else, even using it straight from the pot. Seems almost like a candy/clear.

What do you do if you are trying to do detail work at low pressure and then the brush starts to clog after a while? Is there no solution but to empty the paint out, remove the needle and clean it out? I tried cleaning the needle while it was still in the brush and blasted high pressure through it, it got the paint flowing against but it was splattering.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6485862.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6485862.page GMT Airbrushing Red over Black
That's what I did with this model:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lutnit/10809642063/

That's straight black, white sprayed from a high angle, red to cover all the white and some of the black (doesn't really show up on the black) and then orange and yellow over the red without anymore white. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6485918.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6485918.page GMT Airbrushing Red over Black
I think I'll grab a VMA yellow and see how that goes (all I have at the moment is a GW base yellow, not very vibrant and I hate airbrushing base colours, lol).

I think I can get something decent with doing the white inbetween, I think it's important to clean out the airbrush properly before doing white over black though as the splattering really stands out, as Capamaru mentions. That was probably part of my problem, gunk in the nozzle making it hard to get a smooth coat of white before doing the orange.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6485941.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6485941.page GMT Airbrushing Red over Black I still have no idea why Dakka doesn't work with Flickr links. They've worked on over a dozen other forums for the past 7 years for me. It's just this one. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6485993.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6485993.page GMT Airbrushing Red over Black
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
Thanks for the tips!

I made life hard for myself by going bright green belly, dark scales, but the bright orange spine, makes it hard to avoid having to do a bright colour over a darker one. I decided to do the spine last even though it's the brightest largely because doing the intermediate green that covers most the model, it's hard to avoid accidentally spraying other parts of the model.

So on those models I've actually gone... light green -> intermediate green -> touch up light green -> dark green (almost black) -> red -> white -> orange. With your suggestion the next ones I'll try white before the red and then a yellow.

It does seem the VMA orange isn't suited to covering anything, it looks vibrant when you spray it over white, but barely shows up when you do it on anything else, even using it straight from the pot. Seems almost like a candy/clear.

What do you do if you are trying to do detail work at low pressure and then the brush starts to clog after a while? Is there no solution but to empty the paint out, remove the needle and clean it out? I tried cleaning the needle while it was still in the brush and blasted high pressure through it, it got the paint flowing against but it was splattering.


Lower pressure means higher dilution in order to avoid clogging. You are lowering the pressure in order to get closer to the model for some detail work and if the a/b clogs most people frustrate and raise the pressure. If the color is diluted you get spiders from high pressure, if not you get splattering.
So for low pressure detail work thin your paint a little more than usual. If the a/b clogs then raise pressure, spray some color on some paper and use a q-tip to clean the front of the needle. Then lower pressure and try again first on paper and then on model. If a/b is still clogged it means that you haven't thinned your paint enough in the first place so either you try to thin some more and mix by closing the front of the a/b and sending air and some paint out . If that fails then you have to empty it and clean it.

Always take apart the whole airbrush and clean it at least once per week. Are you using just water for thinning? You have to thin a little even VAC in order to get closer and do some detail work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6486998.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6486998.page GMT Airbrushing Red over Black lol.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6489904.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/576529/6489904.page GMT