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It's meant to be a bit more competitive (I realize the lack of troops isn't ideal!), yet fun to play.

HQ: 780
Be'lakor
Fateweaver
Herald of Khorne [Juggernaught, Locus of Fury, Axe of Khorne]

Elites: 138
6 x Flamers of tzeentch

Troops: 290
2 x 15 daemonettes + Alluress w/lesser reward

Fast Attack:480
2 x 15 flesh hounds

Heavy Support: 310
Daemon prince of Tzeentch [Flight, Warpforged, Grimoire, Staff of change, Psyker lvl 2]

So, there we go - it's meant to be in your face turn 2.

Buffs from Fateweaver / Daemon prince means the hounds will be hitting hard.
Be'lakor will be used for invisibility on one unit of hounds
Fateweaver used to get more consistency on Grimoire on another unit of hounds + herald
The herald of khorne will join the hounds for some AP2 punch and of course, benefit from scout.
Flamers will be deepstriking nearer fragile units and hopefully 6 will be enough to wipe the units before I hand them FNP!

I have also been considering a single unit of 20 hounds and subbing the other out for more daemonettes or herald of slaanesh.

Any comments are welcome!


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You may wish to use Be'lakor as an ally, with some cultists. As it stands, his LD10 means he must be the warlord, but fateweaver has a much better warlord trait. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6494903.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6494903.page GMT CSM detachment (Be'lakor + 10 cultists). Gives me a troop choice to camp on an objective and I get Fateweaver's trait!

I can see what you mean about the flamers. For some reason I love dropping them in halfway through the game and burning off a small horde without much effort! Plus it takes the heat off my more valuable units for a turn or two!

Thanks for the feedback.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6494929.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6494929.page GMT DP btw. He can't have an axe of korne being a Daemon of Tzeentch. Maybe you meant staff. Either way I'd spring more for another psychic level or a greater reward tp help keep him alive. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6494937.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6494937.page GMT
I'll see what I can fit in.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6494945.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6494945.page GMT Tbh I'd reconsider the alluresses and their lesser rewards. Of all the daemons, daemonettes are less needing of etherblades than any others.

Having str 3 attacks that they will be woundng most things on a 5+ anyway, and if they roll a 6, well you already ignore armour, so the blade is kind of wasted.
Having more sergeants in the squads can be helpful against one of the rolls on the warpstorm table, but fateweaver already mitigates this quite a lot.

Personally those 30 points could be better spent buffing up your daemon prince, or 2 more khorne dogs. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6494957.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6494957.page GMT
Flamers are fantastic but only at taking out 4+ saves. They're like ironclad Dreads with dual heavy flamers and a drop pod. I would only take them against orks, tyranids, eldar, tau, dark eldar, daemons, really anyone but SMs or CSMs. Considering about half the armies out there are either of those, that makes them somewhat situational.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6494958.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6494958.page GMT
Lord of Change or lvl 3 daemon prince - mainly for the slightly lower points cost over a lvl 3 DP and toughness 6.

and

Who gets the Grimoire..? If I were to be running Bloodcrushers then I wouldn't mind giving it to the Khorne Herald, but I don't have any champions to take challenges with the hounds ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6495009.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6495009.page GMT i) Heralds - a good choice for buffing the dog units, give them a jugger and an etherblade along with a loci and they will much improve the dogs when the going gets tough.

ii) LoC are great in my opinion. Fully kitted out they cost 50 points less than a Tzeentch DP, and get +1 wound and T. However they do not get a 3+ save as base, which can hurt them. Not sure in a dog list.

iii) Slaanesh lash DP - anti air and generally great all round DP loadout.

iv) Nurgle DP - more specialized than the lash DP, the nurgle Balesword DP would be included in a dogpile list to remove those tough MCs like wraithknights, which your dogs would struggle (fail) against.

As for the grimmoire, a Tzeentch DP is often the bearer of choice. Perhaps the toughest DP due to those re-rollable 1's, and better than a herald because he can fly and keep out of harms way if he needs to. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6495153.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577217/6495153.page GMT