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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>- <br /> Hive tyrant-wings, old adversary, norn crown - 255<br /> Hive tyrant - heavy venom cannon - 185<br /> <br /> Troops - <br /> 30 termagants - 120<br /> Tervigon - 195<br /> 30 termagants - 120<br /> Tervigon - 195<br /> 25 hormagants - 125<br /> <br /> Elites - <br /> 2 venomthropes - 90<br /> 2 venomthropes - 90<br /> 3 zoanthropes - 150<br /> <br /> Fast attack - <br /> Harpy - heavy venom cannon - 140<br />  Harpy - heavy venom cannon - 140<br /> <br /> Heavy support - <br /> Trygon - 190 <br />  <br /> I am new to nids but I have used many tactica and peoples opinions on the new codex to make this list but I wanted to make it my own. <br /> I dont want a tournament list but I want to stand a decent chance against anyone at my gaming club. <br /> <br /> Any comments or criticism are welcome. <br /> <br /> Thanks in advance <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> There may also be a slight biased towards awesome models/ fluff. E.g why there is two tervigons. However I can swap one for a better gameplay alternative.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/985699d47d74b3d11095cdda48eda11c.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577284/6495923.page"><b>Da dakka boy wrote:</b></a><br/><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>- <br /> Hive tyrant-wings, old adversary, norn crown - 255<br /> Hive tyrant - heavy venom cannon - 185<br /> <br /> Troops - <br /> 30 termagants - 120<br /> Tervigon - 195<br /> 30 termagants - 120<br /> Tervigon - 195<br /> 25 hormagants - 125<br /> <br /> Elites - <br /> 2 venomthropes - 90<br /> 2 venomthropes - 90<br /> 3 zoanthropes - 150<br /> <br /> Fast attack - <br /> Harpy - heavy venom cannon - 140<br />  Harpy - heavy venom cannon - 140<br /> <br /> Heavy support - <br /> Trygon - 190 <br />  <br /> I am new to nids but I have used many tactica and peoples opinions on the new codex to make this list but I wanted to make it my own. <br /> I dont want a tournament list but I want to stand a decent chance against anyone at my gaming club. <br /> <br /> Any comments or criticism are welcome. <br /> <br /> Thanks in advance <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> There may also be a slight biased towards awesome models/ fluff. E.g why there is two tervigons. However I can swap one for a better gameplay alternative.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Iam going to say it before everyone jumps on it. I lik this list, how ever i would swap the trygon for a mawloc and try to find some tyranid guard if your set on walking a tyrant.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:10:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ jackblg]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/985699d47d74b3d11095cdda48eda11c.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577284/6495923.page"><b>Da dakka boy wrote:</b></a><br/><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>- <br /> Hive tyrant-wings, old adversary, norn crown - 255<br /> Hive tyrant - heavy venom cannon - 185<br /> <br /> Troops - <br /> 30 termagants - 120<br /> Tervigon - 195<br /> 30 termagants - 120<br /> Tervigon - 195<br /> 25 hormagants - 125<br /> <br /> Elites - <br /> 2 venomthropes - 90<br /> 2 venomthropes - 90<br /> 3 zoanthropes - 150<br /> <br /> Fast attack - <br /> Harpy - heavy venom cannon - 140<br />  Harpy - heavy venom cannon - 140<br /> <br /> Heavy support - <br /> Trygon - 190 <br />  <br /> I am new to nids but I have used many tactica and peoples opinions on the new codex to make this list but I wanted to make it my own. <br /> I dont want a tournament list but I want to stand a decent chance against anyone at my gaming club. <br /> <br /> Any comments or criticism are welcome. <br /> <br /> Thanks in advance <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> There may also be a slight biased towards awesome models/ fluff. E.g why there is two tervigons. However I can swap one for a better gameplay alternative.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Drop Old adversary on the Tyrant.  It's next to useless now.<br /> <br /> Good list otherwise.  Harpies are really not resilient so prepare yourself to lose them.<br /> <br /> I think you'll do well.  I would just try to avoid keeping the Tervigons anywhere near the Termagants.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:22:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Perhaps try a Crone instead of a Harpy, it will aid in anti-air work. Give the winged Tyrant two pairs of twin-devourers instead of old adversary.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:25:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Leech]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/985699d47d74b3d11095cdda48eda11c.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577284/6495923.page"><b>Da dakka boy wrote:</b></a><br/><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>- <br /> Hive tyrant-wings, old adversary, norn crown - 255<br /> Hive tyrant - heavy venom cannon - 185<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> I suggest you reevaluate the wargear on those Tyrants.  The Norn Crown would be better on a Tervigon, but honestly, I doubt you need it at all.  Old adversary isn't cost effective.  If you put a Heavy venom cannon on a walkrant than you need to give it a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>- Devourer.  Also Walkrants usually need Tyrant Guard.<br /> <br /> Most everybody runs dakka flyrants because they are very useful.  They look like this:<br /> Hive Tyrant - Wings, 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Devourers<br /> <br /> I've seen some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> Flyrants.  They tend to look like this:<br /> Hive Tyrant - Wings, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(495);'>LW</span>, Scything Talons<br /> Some of them have upgrade like Toxin Sacs or a Thorax Flamer.<br /> <br /> I'm going to try out a prototype this weekend that looks like this:<br /> Hive Tyrant - Wings, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(14);'>BS</span> + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(495);'>LW</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Devourer, Shredder Beetles<br /> <br /> Here is a walkrant build that I used to moderate effect.<br /> Hive Tyrant - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(443);'>HVC</span>, 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Devourers, Regen<br /> + 2 Tyrant Guard<br /> Tyrant walks out front and takes the first wound for regen.  <br /> <br /> I also tried this one to less than impressive results.<br /> Hive Tyrant - 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span>-Devourers<br /> + 2 Tyrant Guard<br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><img src="https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/a/985699d47d74b3d11095cdda48eda11c.jpg" height="20" border="0">&nbsp;<a href="/dakkaforum/posts/preList/577284/6495923.page"><b>Da dakka boy wrote:</b></a><br/><br /> Heavy support - <br /> Trygon - 190 <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> Mawloc, CFexes, Biovores, and Exocrines are all better than a Trygon.  If you do want to run a base Trygon for fluff reasons, then consider giving it Toxin Sacs.<br /> <br /> <br /> Everything else in your list looks ok, but you may find yourself lacking in firepower at times.  If so you will probably have to drop a Tervigon, and invest in Cfexes, Biovores, or Exorocrines, or at the very least upgrade some of the Gaunts to Devourer Gaunts.  <br /> <br /> When it comes to Devourer Gaunts, I find that running a mixed squad works very well:<br /> 15 Spinefist + 15 Devourer.  That way you can loose cheap gaunts, and hold on to your more expensive ones.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 31 Jan 2014 19:47:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ tag8833]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What if I replace one of the harpys with a mawloc who will be used to ap2 pie plate awkward units. I was thinking of marching the tyrant up the board behind a tervigon paired with venomthropes hell have a 3+ cover. That would mean I wouldnt need guard who dont seem to be great for their point cost. Really appreciate the quick response guys.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> I genuinely do not understand why old adversary is worse than toxin sacs. Toxin sacs for 10 points will allow.you to reroll wounds which will often be on a 2+ anyway so old adversary is giving you this and rerolls of one to hit for an extra five points. If I am going up against of T7 or above I would probably smash. If I were to drop the trygon what would you recommend instead? I was thinking of using it to cause some backfield disruption of which the hormagants would come out and kill some squishy units or take some backfield objectives as they are fast.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 31 Jan 2014 20:28:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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